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Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker 152
#24981864 - 02/10/18 12:04 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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This tek is part of bod's cultivation is easy as fuck link listBod's Easy AF cheapest way to get started TEK The cheapest way to do cakes without a pressure cooker The cheapest way to to bulk without a pressure cooker Low maintenance
Without a pressure cooker using a pot with a nice fitting lid that you already own You will need $10-15 - 12 pack of half pint jars (preferably wide mouth but these are harder to find) $2-5 - Some BRF(brown rice flour) you can grind your own whole brown rice. $5-10 - Some vermiculite $0 - tap water $10-15 - spore syringe $1-2 - storage baggies sandwich or quart size. $28-47 dollars to get started and grow around 2-4oz dried grams of shrooms very easily. $10 more if you don't own a pot with a lid. Get one at an Asian grocery store or wallmart. *** Don't forget there will be some leftovers that save you money off subsequent grows. you will re-use the jars, have enough verm to do a few more grows, BRF is cheap, you'll have extra baggies. Subsequent grows can be done for a few dollars *** Prepare the jars like you would following the PF tek, which is located in the sticky posts at the top of the forum or in the following links. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24179086https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tekwhen it comes time to fruiting skip the SGFC and do this. If using half pint cakes like the PF tek then birth them, wash the dry verm barrier off, put the cake back in the jar and put some new verm on the top. If using a bigger jar you wont need to birth the cake at all because there's no dry verm barrier. Just add some verm to the top and moisten it   you can put them on a shelf somewhere they receive good lighting through the day.   mist them as needed to keep the surface moist. likely once a day to once every other day. Doesn't require any babysitting at all. You can use bigger jars but keep the BRF cake to about a half pint in size. Using larger pucks of BRF cake will stall out when inoculated with a spore syringe, you want to keep the cake to about half pint in size and wide and flat rather than tall and skinny if possible. If you use a bigger jar than the half pint jar skip the dry verm barrier and use a "Grain jar lid"(gas exchange filter and optional injection port) to inoculate and colonize. Do not shake. CONS are the jars are in use for the fruiting period and harvesting can be a pain in the ass. you can use some coir or verm or both together as a top layer or casing to help create a better micro-climate. To do bulk without a pressure cookerMake the cakes as above, then when they are finished colonizing birth them (before the consolidation period as they do not need consolidation used as spawn) Shred the cakes by hand or with a cheese grater. using your shredded cake spawn mix with bucket TEK coir (next two links) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24077162#24077162https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595#11916595use this to make a monotub or shoebox shoebox tubs are $1 and a brick of coir is about $3. suggested shoebox tekI fruit shoeboxes with grocery bags      total cost to do bulk without a pressure cooker $31-50 don't forget there will be some leftovers that save you money off subsequent grows.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: iux] 1
#25130919 - 04/11/18 01:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like this when I got an extra spawn jar. These are the best results I've gotten so far.
 

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Cjmckay


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Sally Hatchet]
#25217166 - 05/20/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I came upon a post about Fruiting Conditions from 11 years ago that clears up a lot. I'm assuming it wouldn't hurt to cook or PC the new verm if contams are a concern.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25244685 - 06/02/18 03:33 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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When adding the new verm layer, do you fill it to the rim again? The cakes kind of shrunk during consolidation and I feel like there's a solid inch of verm on top again. I moistened it, but I'm wondering if it's even necessary to have. Have any of you tried it without the new verm layer?

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Edited by Haus Absolute (06/02/18 03:43 PM)
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Tormato] 1
#25256143 - 06/08/18 01:52 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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First grow and I Had a single jar left to birth and I decided to give this tek a whirl ...here is my jar ... holy side pins batman!


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: rob1130ob]
#25261082 - 06/11/18 08:52 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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rob1130ob said: I really hope those pins find their way to the top. It's so depressing watching pins abort while there's nothing you can do. I birthed 7 cakes to sgfc, I have 2 small monos incubating, and 3 cakes that are about 3 days from dunking. I am going to try the bag tek on them as an experiment. In the past, I would cut off good parts of contaminated cakes, break it up, mix it with gardening soil and pasteurized horse manure. I would put it all in coffee cans made to sgfc standards (holes), cover it with plastic wrap with holes in it. I misted every few days and just kinda pumped the plastic wrap up and down to fan. I think the most I got was 10 dried grains off one flush. Each can only had at most half a cake so I think the manure helped big time.
I'm not worried .... lol ...
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25261118 - 06/11/18 09:11 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mine looked just that. I popped them out and gave them more space.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25262043 - 06/11/18 05:32 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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rob1130ob said: I really hope those pins find their way to the top. It's so depressing watching pins abort while there's nothing you can do. I birthed 7 cakes to sgfc, I have 2 small monos incubating, and 3 cakes that are about 3 days from dunking. I am going to try the bag tek on them as an experiment. In the past, I would cut off good parts of contaminated cakes, break it up, mix it with gardening soil and pasteurized horse manure. I would put it all in coffee cans made to sgfc standards (holes), cover it with plastic wrap with holes in it. I misted every few days and just kinda pumped the plastic wrap up and down to fan. I think the most I got was 10 dried grains off one flush. Each can only had at most half a cake so I think the manure helped big time.
I'm not worried .... lol ...

I only had a couple small ones growing from the top so I just picked them and ate them then bounced the cakes out. I couldn't take seeing them trapped in there like that.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25264074 - 06/12/18 06:06 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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My jar is just growing side pins well they aren't pins anymore they are full mushrooms growing around the jar which i find weird. I have a CV layer on top which i thought would help promote pins on the top but so far it hasn't, should i ditch the CV after this first flush? or add a new one but less? when should i harvest these also? because its hard to tell when they are mushed inside the jar like this. Thanks in advance!
 
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25264224 - 06/12/18 07:09 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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So mine are starting to show some solid progress. I'm wondering though, do I still keep the bag over the top the whole time? What about when they grow big enough to touch the sides of the bag? I'm worried about damaging them as I put it on and off to fan/mist.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25264265 - 06/12/18 07:25 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Opticz said: My jar is just growing side pins well they aren't pins anymore they are full mushrooms growing around the jar which i find weird. I have a CV layer on top which i thought would help promote pins on the top but so far it hasn't, should i ditch the CV after this first flush? or add a new one but less? when should i harvest these also? because its hard to tell when they are mushed inside the jar like this. Thanks in advance!
  
Since you have those short wide mouthjars they should pop out easy. Those pins look like they are still salvageable for growing normally.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25264286 - 06/12/18 07:33 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cjmckay said:
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Opticz said: My jar is just growing side pins well they aren't pins anymore they are full mushrooms growing around the jar which i find weird. I have a CV layer on top which i thought would help promote pins on the top but so far it hasn't, should i ditch the CV after this first flush? or add a new one but less? when should i harvest these also? because its hard to tell when they are mushed inside the jar like this. Thanks in advance!
  
Since you have those short wide mouthjars they should pop out easy. Those pins look like they are still salvageable for growing normally.
So just let it go as it is? and just see if they pop out the top? i mean i didn't plan on doing much beside harvesting if i can ever tell when they are ready.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25265096 - 06/13/18 07:47 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Opticz said:
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Cjmckay said:
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Opticz said: My jar is just growing side pins well they aren't pins anymore they are full mushrooms growing around the jar which i find weird. I have a CV layer on top which i thought would help promote pins on the top but so far it hasn't, should i ditch the CV after this first flush? or add a new one but less? when should i harvest these also? because its hard to tell when they are mushed inside the jar like this. Thanks in advance!
  
Since you have those short wide mouthjars they should pop out easy. Those pins look like they are still salvageable for growing normally.
So just let it go as it is? and just see if they pop out the top? i mean i didn't plan on doing much beside harvesting if i can ever tell when they are ready.
I was suggesting taking the whole cake out of the jar and letting the sides grow to full size. My cakes have only produced one or two small ones at a time so far. But you could harvest those now. I did one of those flat side pins this weekend that was half the size of my pinky and tripped a lot more than I was expecting. Almost the perfect amount.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25265321 - 06/13/18 10:30 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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here is what it looks like this morning. Do you still think i should try and take it out of the jar?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz] 1
#25266324 - 06/13/18 05:47 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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This was taken a few hours ago and I swear they're way bigger already. By tomorrow, they'll be touching the sides of the bag. Do I still keep the bag over the top, or leave it off at this point?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Haus Absolute] 1
#25266452 - 06/13/18 06:43 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haus Absolute said: This was taken a few hours ago and I swear they're way bigger already. By tomorrow, they'll be touching the sides of the bag. Do I still keep the bag over the top, or leave it off at this point?

I leave the bag on until I harvest. 
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25266618 - 06/13/18 08:07 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bry Bry said: Spore print = never buying a spore syringe again.
Spore print from your own grow = priceless shit you can potentially brag about. Much, much cooler than a spore syringe you bought online.
I believe that i just don't have the stuff for it yet but i will get there, i need to make an SAB and i wanna maybe get one from one of my spawned ones and see if they are any good. I'm doing some reading on it now, just seen BOD's tek for it seems pretty simple just need to make me a SAB and then i should be able to do it. Would be pretty cool to be able to brag about something i grew from a print i made lol
 I haven't used a SAB for anything yet. I made some prints in jars but had to do some scraping to get them up. I guess I'm pushing some sanitary boundaries. The jars are showing fast growth though.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Haus Absolute]
#25266677 - 06/13/18 08:40 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haus Absolute said: This was taken a few hours ago and I swear they're way bigger already. By tomorrow, they'll be touching the sides of the bag. Do I still keep the bag over the top, or leave it off at this point?

Leave it on(take off to mist as/if needed) It's ok if they touch the sides.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz] 1
#25267763 - 06/14/18 11:55 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I only ended up getting 22 grams wet off of this one cake so its not much but enough to probably get me where i want to be. Going to enjoy them this weekend sometime
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz] 1
#25268369 - 06/14/18 05:08 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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My hot and sour soup container may be it.
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