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This is what antifascism looks like. * 3
    #24966810 - 02/04/18 12:50 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

It's a long video, so I'll summarize:

  • Charlie Kirk, of Turning Point USA holds a speech at Colorado State University February 2nd, 2018.

  • Supporters, protesters, and antifascists all present.

  • ~1m30s Peaceful discussion on all parties.

  • ~33m Traditionalist Workers Party (TWP), a white-nationalist neo-nazi organization, shows up.

  • ~40m antifascists force TWP out, does not escalate into brawls.

  • With the fascists gone and the night over, everyone disperses.





This is what antifascism should look like.

Populists and nationalists are not fascists and nazis. We may be ideologically opposed to both, but we have to distinguish between the two. Fascism is most dangerous when it is able to sink into more populist movements; this night, your average redhat decided that the TWP are not their friends, and even if they called everyone "night-ruining commies" without distinction, it is apparent in the video which group truly unsettled them.

And it was also great to see TWP immediately getting the more aggressively militant response they deserved. Great that it never had to escalate into physical clashes (from what I saw) because deplatforming without escalating into life threatening violence is always great.

Hopefully those individuals at the front of the push were prepared for any sudden aggression, because this is a reality with antifascist action.

All in all, I greatly commend my compañerxs on a job well done.




Bonus points: camera operator calling nazis "racist communists".


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 3
    #24966827 - 02/04/18 01:00 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Except that the traditionalist workers party aren't neo nazis or fascists, you getting your info from the splc?


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #24966829 - 02/04/18 01:00 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Looks more like the Left eating itself to me.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #24966834 - 02/04/18 01:03 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly how its supposed to work. Luckily none of the fash tried to shoot, or otherwise murder, anyone.


Also, Charlie Kirk has the face of a composite sketch.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: viktor] * 2
    #24966843 - 02/04/18 01:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I can sleep so much better knowing a group of skinny 18-22 years old dressing in black clothes are out there protecting me from "fascists". Too bad they're labeled a "domestic terrorist group".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antifa-domestic-terrorists-us-security-agencies-homeland-security-fbi-a7927881.html


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: qman] * 2
    #24966848 - 02/04/18 01:09 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

You sleep fine because you know you'll be the last group they come for.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 3
    #24966863 - 02/04/18 01:16 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
You sleep fine because you know you'll be the last group they come for.




Well, I'll just put on my black clothes and intimidate them away when it's my groups turn. :cookiemonster:


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: qman]
    #24966869 - 02/04/18 01:20 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Good plan.

Here's the most glaringly relevant quote of all time:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

- Martin Niemoller


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: The Ecstatic] * 3
    #24966885 - 02/04/18 01:28 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Lol who is they? The traditionalist workers party? Is their strong work ethic, family values, and faith in a higher power threatening you?


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: xzylocybin]
    #24966888 - 02/04/18 01:29 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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xzylocybin said:
Except that the traditionalist workers party aren't neo nazis or fascists, you getting your info from the splc?



They are open about it. White ethno-nationalism and national socialism are number one and two of their 25 guiding principles.

https://www.tradworker.org/points/

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1. Self-Determination

The Traditionalist Worker Party shall establish an independent White ethno-state in North America. This nation will be a Homeland for Whites, governed and built by and for our people.




Quote:

2. National Socialism

We demand a National Socialist government, economy, and society for our people.




They literally have the fourteen words in the preamble:

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The guiding principle of the Traditionalist Worker Party is fighting for the rights and self determination of Whites in America. The Fourteen Words, “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children” best exemplifies the mission of our movement, to work to create a sustainable Homeland for our culture, identity, families, and blood.

We fight for Faith, Family, and Folk; all elements of the national rebirth of our people and culture.




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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #24966895 - 02/04/18 01:35 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Hey that's rad, sounds prettty legit to me.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: xzylocybin] * 2
    #24966897 - 02/04/18 01:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Omg you want to fight the oligarchy and protect your people! You must be stopped at all costs!


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: xzylocybin] * 1
    #24966898 - 02/04/18 01:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Fair enough, if you're gonna be a nazi at least be brave enough to be open about it.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #24966903 - 02/04/18 01:37 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Not Nazi's dude, they don't advocate violence or hatred or genocide ir supremacy.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 4
    #24966906 - 02/04/18 01:39 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Fair enough, if you're gonna be a nazi at least be brave enough to be open about it.




So if whites are self-organizing for the interests of white people, they automatically become "nazis"?


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: qman] * 5
    #24966924 - 02/04/18 01:46 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

If you advocate for a white ethno-state and national socialism, then "white-nationalist neo-nazi" is an appropriate term.

:dealwithit:


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 3
    #24966935 - 02/04/18 01:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I literally made this thread to illustrate the point of recognizing the difference between populists (MAGA redhat) and fascists (TWP) - a long running conflation members here often complain about - and here we have some of our resident 'conservatives' bending over backwards to sympathize with self-identified white-nationalist neo-nazis...

And then you act surprised when you get grouped in with them.

:shrug:

You folks weren't the intended audience for this post anyways.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: qman] * 3
    #24966936 - 02/04/18 01:55 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

shivas.wisdom said:
Fair enough, if you're gonna be a nazi at least be brave enough to be open about it.




So if whites are self-organizing for the interests of white people, they automatically become "nazis"?




Any white man who doesn't kneel down and die of shame this instant is a Nazi.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: viktor] * 9
    #24966949 - 02/04/18 02:02 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Jesus. Nobody is demanding white people feel shame. Stop acting like such a victim. That's all I hear from your side. You are wallowing in manufactured victimhood.

What you should be ashamed of is the fact that you are a rabid anti-Semite and racist.


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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: koods] * 4
    #24966974 - 02/04/18 02:15 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Racism doesnt exist plus us whites are the most discriminated against and hated :braindamage:


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