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yup you'll be fine. just don't do anything silly like turn it upside down or shake it. As long as that verm layer is as deep as the threads and full, you shouldn't have any filter problems.
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: LtLurker]
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if all goes well with my jar tek top fruit i want to try a shoebox(of of bods stikys) could I just shred my brf cake after first flush and mix it with some more verm and brf and throw a grocery bag over it? In the tek I'm referring to Bod uses coir and pressure cooked grains. Im not sure i understand the concept of them, are the grain jars PC just like BRF for sanitation or are the grains themselves what needs PC-ing? And coir prep seems pretty involved, I'm wondering if there's a simpler TEK.
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read over those teks again. you're a little mixed up.
You can't use brf for bulk, too nutritious, it's for making spawn(cakes) that get added to bulk(verm, coir)
Coir just gets boiling water added to it. It's retarded simple. There is a Bucket tek in the stickied tek list.
Grains jars are for spawn like brf, but they require a pc to actually get sterile. You also should work agar and inoc them with a clean culture. Straight grains are more suseptible to the contams in your syringe than brf jars are.
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There is a tek where they crumble a brf cake into more brf. I think it was eatyualive. It was pretty old too. I just saw it last night looking through the archives
Don't do it. You need to be pretty damn sterile if your gonna do that, since it's easy to contaminate as opposed to coir.
Never tried myself, they just started selling it here- in the black kow experiment thread people are claiming success with using it straight out the bag. Several people, so probably not just a fluke
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: Soccrates]
#26103066 - 07/11/19 08:14 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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brf>brf is done like g2g. in a sab and into a sealed bag. Not open air tubs as bulk afaik. Plus, it's super inefficient if it was possible to use as a bulk. Way more costly and far more nutes than cubes could ever need.
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: LtLurker]
#26103087 - 07/11/19 08:28 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's what I was trying to say.just better
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Honestly, for growing oysters on different subs I'd check out Freshcap Mushroom's "teks"
HWFP Fruiting Blocks (if you can't get soybean hulls) Masters Mix (if you can find soybean hulls) Strawlog Tek
I'm about to work on that Masters Mix but subbing out beet pulp for soybean hulls, because they're impossible to find. I'll probably post shit about it somewhere when I get around to it. My experience with the wheatbran wasn't so great
Has anyone tried ONLY using boiling water for Pelletized soyhulls and HWFP?
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: EyeOnEmitter]
#26111334 - 07/16/19 10:01 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are 1 qt jars too big? I have two and want to use them but I won’t if they are too big. I have two pints as well and was wondering about the substrate requirements for both sizes. Should I fill the pints half way? Or like 3/4 with 1/4 dry Verm casing?
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Too big for what? Brf cakes? I wouldn't do it. Pints should work, but you should use a liquid inoculate instead of spores to ensure rapid colonization. It might work with spores. Or it might stall. LtLurker showed me a pic of a pint pf jar he did
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: Soccrates]
#26111402 - 07/16/19 10:35 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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quarts are gonna be way to big for brf, those are for grains.
Pints can work. Trick i use is to fill half way and use a lid filter instead of a dry verm layer. Inoc by opening. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25110988
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: LtLurker]
#26111409 - 07/16/19 10:37 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey all, I just got my first grow kit in the mail. It didn't come with instructions so I relied on videos I watched on YouTube. I think I may have ruined my kit. I first soaked the substrate for 12 hours and then strained the water away. Then I thought I was doing right by taking a sterile fork and mulching up the top layer. I later was advised that the kit was 100 mycelium and using a fork was not a good idea. I only did so because I seen a video of another grow kit where I mistakenly realised after a closer look it was a layer of soil on top of his substrate so it was the soil I guess he was using the fork on. Anyways is this kit going to grow or is the mycelium ruined? Thanks
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: Mushy416]
#26111454 - 07/16/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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It should survive. The water part was right. As for the fork... you probably got a colonized brf cake. It's definitely not the best idea to do that, but if it was properly colonized(internally) it'll recover.
It's pretty common practice to take a cheese grater to them and completely shred it to mix into a bulk substrate.
If it wasn't fully colonized you may have let contaminants get to the still vulnerable inside. It probably was though. You should be good. You hurt the yield, and set yourself back cause now it's gonna have to recover from the injury, but it will. Might as well go get some coir.
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: Puduwoke]
#26111600 - 07/16/19 12:09 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Puduwoke said: Has anyone tried ONLY using boiling water for Pelletized soyhulls and HWFP?
Hey Pud... what chu' mean? I've seen people just use Water+HWFP, Water+Soyhulls/HWFP, and Water+HWFP/Wheat Bran.
What else would you use?
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I believe he means to buckettek it instead of pc'ing
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: Soccrates]
#26111778 - 07/16/19 01:52 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ahhhhhhh, ok. I think you're looking for the Lipa Tek for that one then.
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I'm pretty sure that would be a bad plan with brand or soybean hulls added though
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: Soccrates]
#26111807 - 07/16/19 02:14 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, I wouldn't use it for anything that nutritious. It's the only tek for bulk gourmet that I know of that uses just boiling water for pasteurization/sterilization
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Straw logs
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Re: Intermediate Semi-retard Newb Zone [Re: Soccrates]
#26111916 - 07/16/19 02:57 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Soccrates said: Straw logs
YOU'RE KILLING ME SMALLS. I meant related to HWFP. You are, of course, correct.
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Oh. I actually wasn't being a smartass at all
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