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Citizen X
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25161171 - 04/23/18 10:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey I never tried WBS because I read there was a bad smell during that soak/boil. Is there any funky smell when doing this tek?
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Citizen X]
#25161190 - 04/23/18 10:11 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, funky smells come from letting seed soak for more than 36 hours. In a nutshell, funky smells come from amount of bacteria that's allotted to multiply in that amount of time. With this Tek there is no soak, so no bad smells culminate due to bacterial multiplication. However, there is a chance that scent of WBS simply isn't palatable to some folks.
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Citizen X
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25161194 - 04/23/18 10:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks Ham.
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Citizen X]
#25161218 - 04/23/18 10:27 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25163686 - 04/25/18 02:28 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome Tek, thank you
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25167551 - 04/26/18 06:45 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Thanks, bob. Your mini compressor refrigerator fruiting chamber build is pure genius. 
Zappa, go with this approach for millet. If it wasn't for millet in WBS mixture, this approach wouldn't even be necassary. 
Excellent, Thanks!
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#25183280 - 05/04/18 04:44 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Question my stove goes up 200 F but i don't know what medium tempture would be my stove is older and doesn't tell you. 100F is meduium i would guess
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: bender466]
#25183677 - 05/04/18 09:58 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, the main goal is to not let the water exceed 200F for the simmer period, so use your meat thermometer to keep track of the water's temperature as to not let it exceed 200F during the simmer step making the necassary adjustments to your stove if need be.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25184453 - 05/04/18 04:53 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'd much rather do this in make up bird seed bags on. If I can just do it in the jars. There are so I don't have to. Do you know? Make the whole for the. The bag 'cause I don't know how to do that. No one ever showed me in the pictures how to do that so. This is much easier, but if it back to my original question. Oh. 0400 degrees. Yeah, and then after that would be 200 I assume right. Can you leave it in for 200? Medium medium medium it would be 200 right 'cause my stove does not on. Does the data range stove and it doesn't have any only way I can see the temperature is it inside the stove with the thermometer. Alright, thank you.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25184463 - 05/04/18 04:59 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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OK so you have to go. Have it at 200 degrees Fahrenheit in the stove. And then you gotta have a long enough meat thermometer to reach into the water. And make sure it's not over 200 degrees. And then you're set to go right.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25184481 - 05/04/18 05:06 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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And medium is is is 100 degrees right better safe than sorry.?? thank you.
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: bender466]
#25185009 - 05/04/18 10:31 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Correct, you'll need a thermometer long enough to reach into the water. Meat thermometers are good for that, and you can get them at any grocery store (assuming that's an option for you) for fairly inexpensive.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25188675 - 05/06/18 09:55 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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what kind of wbs would to buy off amazon. and cheapest best pressure cooker that would hold four jars at once thanks
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: bender466]
#25189026 - 05/07/18 06:55 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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bender466 said: what kind of wbs would to buy off amazon. and cheapest best pressure cooker that would hold four jars at once thanks
Pennington's Classic works great with this tek. And if you get a PC that's cheap and just holds 4 jars, you're probably going to regret it later. At least get a Presto 23 qt.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Asura]
#25189033 - 05/07/18 06:59 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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You wonβt regret a 23 quart presto. Itβs only slighlty more than a 17 quart presto, has a pressure gaug,e and can hold 10 jars at once.
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micelio
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: JHOVA]
#25189122 - 05/07/18 08:04 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I been happy with my 23 quart presto, now for five years....
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: micelio]
#25190052 - 05/07/18 05:08 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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i'm phazed up about this getting tek started but my biggest concern is spore prints and inoculations loops excuse the spelling last time i failed and contaminated the water somehow. are you suppose to pc the loop and boil the water before making a supply? then pc the jar itself or can i trust a brand new jar i buy to make spore syringes. i'd rather not buy 20 or 30 spore syringes. IL TEK Any1 THANK YOU
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: bender466]
#25190515 - 05/07/18 08:55 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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All you have to do with the loop is wipe it down with alcohol before putting into the work area, and flame sterilze it between each use. No need to PC it. To make a spore solution you PC the water inside the jar for 20-30 minutes @ 15 psi, or above.
Instead of going through all the trouble of making syringes though it would be easer to inoculate agar with spores from print with your loop, and get a clean culture going before moving onto grains. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976#19208976
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25190526 - 05/07/18 09:04 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is there a way to save this tek to my account. I'm not very computer literate and wont be starting another grow soon so id like to store this for later. Ive always soaked for about 24 hours but this seems way easier and faster.
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hamloaf
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: BoomerBud]
#25190623 - 05/07/18 10:06 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not exactly sure how, but you can always copy and paste the link below and post it in your journal. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24952939#24952939
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