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Nobler Hino
a dojo and a forge?!


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 1,774
Loc: Deep Ellum
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#24992113 - 02/13/18 07:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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i always did no cook wbs but ill definitely try this when my oats run out. nice tek dude
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hamloaf
Loaf of Fam.


Registered: 12/23/09
Posts: 20,192
Loc: Oklahoma.
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Nobler Hino]
#24992682 - 02/13/18 11:19 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks, Nobler. This tek is super simple. Most recent batch inoculated earlier.
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mysterykap


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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24994997 - 02/14/18 08:57 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks Ham, Using this tek now! Will keep you posted.

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Asura
Cyantist


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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: mysterykap]
#24995086 - 02/14/18 09:29 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'll post pics soon. I've got 4 jars hamloaf-style vs. 2 jars Frank-style going with PE6.
Guess who's winning?
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hamloaf
Loaf of Fam.


Registered: 12/23/09
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Asura]
#24995163 - 02/14/18 09:55 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice one mysterykap. That seed looks very good. 
Asura, Frank?
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Asura
Cyantist


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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#24995187 - 02/14/18 10:01 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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No way, dude. Your jars are showing way more growth.
I have to re-run the experiment though, because your jars have Pennington's Classic and Franks have Dogshit brand WBS.
Edit: Even if they were dead even, you would still win based on time savings.
Edited by Asura (02/14/18 10:02 PM)
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Psilosion


Registered: 03/23/17
Posts: 485
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Asura]
#24995252 - 02/14/18 10:36 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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My pressure cooker runs at 12 psi, what would be an acceptable amount of time to run it?
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Sutty86
Brit



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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Psilosion] 1
#24995510 - 02/15/18 02:24 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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120mins i have an electric pressure cooker which runs at a max 12 psi im guessing, and ive had no problems with contams running for 120mins
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Edited by Sutty86 (02/15/18 02:34 AM)
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Psilosion


Registered: 03/23/17
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Sutty86]
#24996033 - 02/15/18 09:15 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks, Sutty86.
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hamloaf
Loaf of Fam.


Registered: 12/23/09
Posts: 20,192
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Psilosion]
#24996098 - 02/15/18 09:48 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree with 86. Doesn't hurt to overkill sterilization, so if you are in doubt it will be ok to bump sterilation time up an extra 30-60 minutes to prescribed 2 hours at 12 psi.
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UFO
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Registered: 12/05/06
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Loc: Interior Earth
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf] 1
#24996143 - 02/15/18 10:19 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice tek hamloaf, I will have to give this a try
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hamloaf
Loaf of Fam.


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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: UFO]
#24996254 - 02/15/18 11:14 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Give a shot. It's super simple. When you do please drop back by and post your results with it. Thanks for considering giving this Tek a spin.
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OriginalGinger
Lackadaisical



Registered: 07/01/17
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#24996327 - 02/15/18 11:46 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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You're kidding me no more smelly WBS soaks.....
I'll be trying this thanks Hamloaf!
Does your WBS also get bigger during a pressure cook? sometimes I put jars in 3/4 full then they come out 4/4 completely full when using WBS!
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hamloaf
Loaf of Fam.


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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: OriginalGinger]
#24996563 - 02/15/18 02:01 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nope, no more soak necessary. Thanks for dropping by and considering giving this Tek a spin.
You are correct. All seed expands with impregnation of water. To compensate for seed expansion due to impregnation with hydration is why it's prescribed in this Tek to use 2 cups of dry seed per quart jar, and to fill jars with hydrated seed 5/8ths to 3/4ths full.
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Asura
Cyantist


Registered: 08/01/11
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25008936 - 02/20/18 06:38 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's a little early, but here are my observations. These were started on 2/10. I am hoping they will be ready to spawn by Sunday. Growth is pretty non-linear at my current locale. Varying temps most likely.

First 4 jars are hamloaf's method, last 2 jars are FrankHorrigan's method.
Growth started in hamloaf's jars first, but Frank's eventually caught up.
I would say both methods have equal performance, so with that said I am definitely going with hamloaf's method for 2 simple reasons: less time investment, less materials.
But the proof is in the fruits. I'll post results eventually.
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hamloaf
Loaf of Fam.


Registered: 12/23/09
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Asura]
#25009077 - 02/20/18 07:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey, Asura! Thanks for posting up. On that PE6 are you working with MS, clone, or isolate culture?
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Asura
Cyantist


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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: hamloaf]
#25009085 - 02/20/18 07:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's just a LI that was done from P3. I'll link you the full grow when I'm done.
Edit: PE6
Edited by Asura (02/20/18 07:24 PM)
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john_conner

Registered: 02/21/17
Posts: 243
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Asura]
#25009180 - 02/20/18 07:52 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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thinking about going back to WBS, i switched to whole oats a while back to try and cut back on smell and price but I've had so many issues since i switched to oats. I swear i had bigger, better healthier fruit with WBS, but the smell kills me. i just might go out and grab a bag and give this a try.
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Germs
Space Force


Registered: 06/26/11
Posts: 4,607
Loc: Texas
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: john_conner]
#25011602 - 02/21/18 07:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tried this out the other day, my millet came out with about the same small number of burst grains as soaking and then straight to PC, and the grains looked great at time of inoculation.
Great to have an easy alternative if there’s no time to dump some seed in a pot of water the day before
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hamloaf
Loaf of Fam.


Registered: 12/23/09
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Re: Super Simple, No Soak, WBS Simmer Prep Tek Like a Boss. [Re: Germs]
#25013701 - 02/22/18 04:01 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool! Glad to have you aboard, Germs. Let us know how it goes, please.
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