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Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? * 1
    #24946600 - 01/28/18 02:16 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Recently I was listening to a Terence McKenna lecture where he was detailing the tropes and common archetypes and visions of Psilocybin and other psychedelics and he mentioned how the Ayahuasca visions "covered a broader spectrum" but the Psilocybin hallucinations tended toward this very specific, insect-like outer-space thing. Well although I already knew most people including myself got the outer-space vibe from psilocybin I had never heard this insect claim before but I remembered almost instantly connecting it to one of my most memorable trips from years ago.

Just one random time I was tripping in the mountains at night on 4 grams of Golden Teachers and I remember having visions from pornography in my head (was 17 at the time) and the people having sex I started to perceive them as being little bugs that were sucking on each other and just moving around like bugs. And at another point in that same trip my nose was just pouring snot and as I tried to wipe it away I myself started feeling like a weird bug or alien with this gooey stuff coming out of my face holes. It all came through a very objective perspective on what I was biologically but ya it did have an insect vibe.

So has anyone else here specifically had insect-esque visuals/visions/feelings from mushrooms? What's interesting is that after googling "mushrooms and insects" I came to find that like the cell wall of mushrooms the exoskeletons of insects also contain chitin. So both mushrooms and insects have chitin :strokebeard:


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24946962 - 01/28/18 05:39 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I have encountered insectoids several times. Large black mantis like entities at least twice. Dennis McKenna reverences "Insect Anthropologists" and Kilindi Iyi says "The Mantis entities give him trouble" on mega doses. Also, been mentioned on may threads here.

On one trip I experienced a boundary layer of pure white light. I felt like I was pushing my head thru this boundary to enter hyperspace. As I did a Mantis started examining my brain. As I recoiled from the experience I saw like out of the corner of my eye a small black insect dart into my head. I though "wow now I'm possessed."


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: Hush]
    #24968410 - 02/05/18 05:39 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah it's weird because I have encountered the prey mantis as well but it was on LSD and it was more of an "alien" or cosmic feel than the insect-like/biological feel that mushrooms has.

For me it just seems like the insect thing with mushrooms is just more of a "theme". Like it made people feel like bugs and it seemed all about making humans look like small organisms like bacteria or bugs relative to the vast and grand universe. That's why I think psilocybin is so humbling it makes humanity look so small and just as small as bugs or something like that.


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 2
    #24968514 - 02/05/18 06:35 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Mushrooms are very insectoid-like along with pharmahuascs. My first entity experience on mushrooms alone there was an insectoid at the edge of my bed and there were colors coming off of it.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #24968600 - 02/05/18 07:22 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I met a similar, mantis-like insectoid entity on mushrooms.

On LSD not.

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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #24968657 - 02/05/18 07:42 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I think I have less experience than most of you. But you just reminded me of my last real trip. It was sort of the opposite scenario, meaning that there was an insect I saw during the trip that was litteraly the most plain, least trippy thing I saw during the trip.

I was laying under a tree, having a conversation with it when I noticed a big black ant crawling around a few inches from my face. I watched it waiting for it to do something interesting. It just crawled around like an ant.

"Hey little ant what you doing?" I asked.
The ant said nothing.

I asked the tree," What's up with that ant? What's he doing?"

The tree very nonchalantly answered,"I don't know. Ant stuff I guess".

Me:"So ants just do ordinary ant stuff?"

Tree:"Pretty much".

Me:"Wow. Ants aren't very cool are they?"

Tree:"No. They're really not."


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: Thundermuscle75] * 2
    #24968688 - 02/05/18 07:53 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like an egotistical tree.


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #24969763 - 02/06/18 04:04 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Pandemoon said:
I met a similar, mantis-like insectoid entity on mushrooms.

On LSD not.

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Yeah..i have never come close to entity contact om LSD.

Anyone who claims entity contact on acid is either lying to sound cool or they just dont know what true emtities are like. Entities are not something you need to look for in the midst of visuals...entities are clear as anything and usually show up alone, without the visuals to distract you.


like when the insectoid entered and was chilling on the end of my bed...there wasnt colors or visuals or fractals around it making it hard to see...the entity was the ONLY vision and had all the visuals and colors emanating from it.  There is no confusion when you contact these things..its just you and them...

of course high doses in darkness is the only way to invoke it. maybe you dont need pitch black but you need something close


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: bombaymagic]
    #24969940 - 02/06/18 05:07 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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bombaymagic said:
Sounds like an egotistical tree.




:grin:


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: d34d]
    #24970360 - 02/06/18 08:21 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

d34d said:
Quote:

bombaymagic said:
Sounds like an egotistical tree.




:grin:



Tree was actually pretty cool. It was like I crapped on the conversation by talking about that stupid ant.

I think for the tree it was as if we were discussing the nature of existence and someone chimed in with ,"I really hope One Direction gets back together. How about you?". That's how intellectual trees feel about ants.


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: Thundermuscle75] * 1
    #24972055 - 02/07/18 02:35 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Thundermuscle75 said:

Me:"Wow. Ants aren't very cool are they?"

Tree:"No. They're really not."





This reminds me of an old African proverb I once heard.

"A man who thinks nothing in this universe(or world) is useless has obviously never spent the night with a mosquito."


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #24972067 - 02/07/18 02:42 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Anyone who claims entity contact on acid is either lying to sound cool or they just dont know what true emtities are like





Hey man lol

I never would have dreamt to meet a fucking entity on LSD either but I did. I didn't even realize that happened, at that point I didn't even understand how synthetics like LSD could induce mystical experiences. I never even knew anything about these insectoid alien entities. The prey mantis entity is something I didn't find out about until 3 years later when reading the Lexicon on the DMT Nexus and they even specifically said they felt very alien-like which sent shivers down my spine because it did.

Sonic Tonic even encountered the same entity on LSD that I did.

And in terms of the visuals in combination with the entities I don't know. When I encountered a flirtatious fairy entity on mushrooms there was actually quite a bit going on. She was coming out of a portal that opened up for one and the portal was filled with complex detailed aztec and mayan patterns that were glowing and rotating all along the edges.


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24973036 - 02/07/18 01:17 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

AuroraBorealis88 said:
Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
Anyone who claims entity contact on acid is either lying to sound cool or they just dont know what true emtities are like





Hey man lol

I never would have dreamt to meet a fucking entity on LSD either but I did. I didn't even realize that happened, at that point I didn't even understand how synthetics like LSD could induce mystical experiences. I never even knew anything about these insectoid alien entities. The prey mantis entity is something I didn't find out about until 3 years later when reading the Lexicon on the DMT Nexus and they even specifically said they felt very alien-like which sent shivers down my spine because it did.

Sonic Tonic even encountered the same entity on LSD that I did.

And in terms of the visuals in combination with the entities I don't know. When I encountered a flirtatious fairy entity on mushrooms there was actually quite a bit going on. She was coming out of a portal that opened up for one and the portal was filled with complex detailed aztec and mayan patterns that were glowing and rotating all along the edges.





:shrug:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #24975638 - 02/08/18 11:06 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Giant bug in space, on 8 grams of cubes. My first entity encounter. Scared the shit out of me. I remember coming out of that trip mumbling something about bugs controlling the universe.


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #24975650 - 02/08/18 11:16 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

interesting


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: qqp]
    #24975699 - 02/08/18 11:58 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I was told that the Mantis represents another form of mother earth. The destructiv side of the materia. Mater = Mother


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: ReKali]
    #24975705 - 02/08/18 12:02 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

What does a ant do? Anting! :laugh:


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: ReKali]
    #24980173 - 02/10/18 02:06 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

While God/Entheogens are in every living creature - including insects -  Psilocybin showing you that to Them you are an insect/alien means that basically you are no different than an insect as far as God/Entheogens are concerned.

Understanding that They are the True God and were the God of Christ, Moses, Buddha, Shiva, Mohamed, etc., is what sets a person apart from alien/insects to Them.

"19 So you are no longer aliens or foreign visitors: you are citizens like all the saints, and part of God's household. 20 You are part of a building that has the apostles and prophets for its foundations, and Christ Jesus himself for the main cornerstone. 21 As every structure is aligned on him, all grow into one holy temple in the Lord; 22 and you too, in him, are being built into a house where God lives, in the Spirit."
-- Ephesians, 2, 19 (St. Paul)


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: endogenous]
    #25017629 - 02/24/18 01:10 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

To God/Entheogens a difference between humans and other creatures is that humans have WORDS.

A difference between humans and other creatures (or insects), to God/Entheogens, is that humans are able to discover that the word "God" in the scriptures, meant "Entheogens".

People who haven't discovered this are no different than insects to God/Entheogens.

Christ was called "the living Word".

"1- 1 Something which has existed since the beginning, that we have heard, and we have seen with our own eyes; that we have watched and touched with our hands: the Word who is life - this is our subject.

2 That life was made visible: we saw it and we are giving our testimony, telling you of the eternal Life which was with the Creator and has been made visible to us."

-- 1John, 1, 1


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Re: Insect-like visions from Mushrooms? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #25017711 - 02/24/18 03:06 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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AuroraBorealis88 said:
Recently I was listening to a Terence McKenna lecture where he was detailing the tropes and common archetypes and visions of Psilocybin and other psychedelics and he mentioned how the Ayahuasca visions "covered a broader spectrum" but the Psilocybin hallucinations tended toward this very specific, insect-like outer-space thing. Well although I already knew most people including myself got the outer-space vibe from psilocybin I had never heard this insect claim before but I remembered almost instantly connecting it to one of my most memorable trips from years ago.

Just one random time I was tripping in the mountains at night on 4 grams of Golden Teachers and I remember having visions from pornography in my head (was 17 at the time) and the people having sex I started to perceive them as being little bugs that were sucking on each other and just moving around like bugs. And at another point in that same trip my nose was just pouring snot and as I tried to wipe it away I myself started feeling like a weird bug or alien with this gooey stuff coming out of my face holes. It all came through a very objective perspective on what I was biologically but ya it did have an insect vibe.

So has anyone else here specifically had insect-esque visuals/visions/feelings from mushrooms? What's interesting is that after googling "mushrooms and insects" I came to find that like the cell wall of mushrooms the exoskeletons of insects also contain chitin. So both mushrooms and insects have chitin :strokebeard:




You remembered me my first trip ever.

3.5 grams of mexican... solo trip at home in a reclining chair. My wife in the living room watching TV.

At some point of the trip, I would see Earth getting far away,then the milky way, then the universe, then a few bigger things (I know you fellow psychonauts understand it), and then, after that, is like it was being birthed, and somehow a giant vulva, giving existence to the universe.

It wasn't pornographic, but more of observing the perfection of women and their ability to form a new life, and this was for any female mammal in the planet. Far from my best and most intense visions under shrooms (like existence itself collapsing within itself on 5 grams of golden teachers)

Etherogens like people said before, are our gateways to our god self, and to open our fucking eye. (yes, eye, not eyes)

When used properly, they provide us growth. The "Adams and Eve" story was not an apple,  but probably an etherogen.


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