Those at the top reap the attention and rewards while the "supporters" follow blindly and let dear leader tell them what to think.
The amount that simply leaning towards one political team or the other changes the average person's stance on so many unrelated issues is frightening.
By getting your opinion on black lives matter, someone can predict with a significant certainty whether or not you believe in climate change.
By getting your opinion on gay rights, someone can predict with significant certainty whether or not you think Russia swayed the election.
These are completely unrelated things, but based on which internet or cable news content-providers you let run your brain, you're very likely to fit the pattern. How many people actually gave a shit that Hillary used a personal email address, until the fat alpha-male with the red hat told them too? How many people have said way worse things than "grab them by the pussy", but were outraged because it fit their political agenda?
Sure, plenty of us may not fit into that mold, but you don't have to look far at all to see that the vast majority of the country does.
I've seen people on here with a politician in their avatar, that is some truly weird cult-like behavior. Politicians don't represent you, they get to their position by being truly narcissistic and skillful manipulators. They'll tell you what you want to hear, and then do as much for themselves as they can get away with. They'll do as little as possible for you as is required for their re-election.
Trump is a truly unhappy and angry person who was handed the world at birth and has never heard the word "no". His life is based on constant pleasure, and he chases any rush he can find while desperately avoiding any moments of being "down" or being forced to self-reflect. His only interest is himself, and frankly he's a piece of shit and you've been played if you actually identify with the man. He's not an "outsider", he's the type of guy that a true outsider would be protecting us against.
Hillary is a career politician, 100% in it for herself. I'm not even sure she's a real human. She suffered one of the worst public humiliations of all time with her husband, and was seeking redemption with this election. It doesn't take much research to figure out that she is also just a piece of shit. It is comforting that it seems like a large portion of her voters didn't really seem to identify with her, and were more voting against Trump.
We're playing right into the hands of those who control us with this partisan bullshit. Instead of blindly supporting "your candidate", why not speak out openly when you see them doing something wrong? The election is over, there's no more need for propaganda. You're not changing minds anyway, just circle-jerking.
Almost every political discussion I read/hear is painfully obviously swayed by emotion, not actual fact or belief. Instead of trying to change someone's beliefs(impossible), why not work towards a compromise? Why not at least attempt to find a middle ground, and discuss issues that actually effect our lives instead of meaningless Washington partisan gossip. All that does is distract us from the fact that no actual progress is being made, and we're all fucked if things don't change, fast.
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By getting your opinion on black lives matter, someone can predict with a significant certainty whether or not you believe in climate change.
I doubt this very much.
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By getting your opinion on gay rights, someone can predict with significant certainty whether or not you think Russia swayed the election.
No, one can't.
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I've seen people on here with a politician in their avatar, that is some truly weird cult-like behavior.
Why? Because you said so?
No.
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The election is over, there's no more need for propaganda.
Don't pretend to know everybody's agenda in the political forum.
Why don't you stop your apolitical propaganda?
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You're not changing minds anyway, just circle-jerking.
Incorrect. I have had my mind changed in here.
I have also seen other people concede to each other.
Why are you so pessimistic?
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No, one can't.
Here's the first thing that pops up on a google search : http://www.psypost.org/2017/10/study-finds-political-moralization-can-even-infect-opinions-unrelated-consumer-products-49919 There are more in-depth and relevant studies that I can post from my home computer, but you clearly have your "debunker" hat on and are closed off to my post, even though this first part is common knowledge at this point.
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Why? Because you said so?
No.
Yes. That's my opinion, that someone has been deceived on a cult-like level to have that much support for any of the recent presidents/candidates we've had. They're all truly bad people, whatever ideals and good qualities they represent should not be cause for overlooking just how shitty of a person they are, and the damage they have caused (or are trying to cause).
Why not actually try to give some reasons that what I said was "wrong"?
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Don't pretend to know everybody's agenda in the political forum.
Why don't you stop your apolitical propaganda?
You would have to be wearing a blindfold and have ear plugs in to not see clear bias and propaganda in many news stories and forum posts. I'm not assuming I know anything about anyone, it's just not very difficult to tell when someone is bullshitting with false or misleading information.
I'm not apolitical at all, I'm actually a very active advocate for various causes. My post has nothing to do with that, it's just calling out the strangeness of team-based blind support of whatever millionaire or billionaire people choose to align with.
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Incorrect. I have had my mind changed in here.
I have also seen other people concede to each other.
Why are you so pessimistic?
Is being in tune with the facts and the current polarized state of society pessimistic? How can any logical person see a call for people to seek common ground to be pessimistic? So much of political discussion, especially online, is just stimulation via conflict. There's a clear difference between passive aggressive arguing and actual fact-based debate. When people stick to the facts is typically when common ground can be had and progress can be made. When people join a "team", you can expect team-like behavior.
I'm not telling anyone how to act, I just wrote down my opinion with a few 'why not instead?' questions. The people being amused fighting amongst ourselves is why we will forever be stuck getting screwed, because half of us are always hesitant to speak out against the screw-er, or even blindly defending them.
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