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 Mateja
 
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Spivkurl said:
Finally have a cool pinset on my B+ BRF cake to shoebox grow!
They kind of blew up over night while I was drinking whisky downstairs.
I see many more pins will appear soon, keep doing what you´re doing Spiv, looking good 
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Edited by Mateja (02/11/18 11:07 AM)
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 Spivkurl
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 Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn  [Re: Mateja]
#24985497 - 02/11/18 11:26 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said:
I see many more pins will appear soon, keep doing what you´re doing Spiv, looking good
Yeah! There seem to be more each time I look over the past couple of days. Definitely a more even set than my rye to CVG boxes.
I will be doing the cakes to bulk thing again soon, lovin it.
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Spivkurl]
#24985512 - 02/11/18 11:32 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yesterdays harvest was not expecting much but like what I got.
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Spivkurl
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: kanemush]
#24985596 - 02/11/18 12:05 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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kanemush said:
Yesterdays harvest was not expecting much but like what I got.
Those look really nice! Very cool coloration to those caps.
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kanemush
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Spivkurl]
#24985645 - 02/11/18 12:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spivkurl said:
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kanemush said:
Yesterdays harvest was not expecting much but like what I got.
Those look really nice! Very cool coloration to those caps.
Thank you very much
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Whiskey Man
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: kanemush]
#24985771 - 02/11/18 01:11 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Odd question.
The cheese grater for shredding the cakes
How small should they be chunked into? I have a small one that could sliver a cake nicely. Looking forward to trying this out when my cakes are ready.
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Whiskey Man]
#24986097 - 02/11/18 01:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whiskey Man said:
Odd question.
The cheese grater for shredding the cakes
How small should they be chunked into? I have a small one that could sliver a cake nicely. Looking forward to trying this out when my cakes are ready.
I use the smallest circle ones it works great.
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: kanemush]
#24986210 - 02/11/18 01:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's a salad tray I shredded one half pint cake with about 2 parts coir/verm.Starting to pin,and I'm trying to figure out how to fruit these fully.I would open air,but it's pretty dry in the grow area right now,and I can't be around to mist regularly.
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Fascistbullyboy
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Whiskey Man]
#24986226 - 02/11/18 01:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whiskey Man said:
Odd question.
The cheese grater for shredding the cakes
How small should they be chunked into? I have a small one that could sliver a cake nicely. Looking forward to trying this out when my cakes are ready.
In my journal I have a pic of the grater and the size holes I use. And a pic of it all grated.
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Whiskey Man
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kanemush said:
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Whiskey Man said:
Odd question.
The cheese grater for shredding the cakes
How small should they be chunked into? I have a small one that could sliver a cake nicely. Looking forward to trying this out when my cakes are ready.
I use the smallest circle ones it works great.
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Fascistbullyboy said:
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Whiskey Man said:
Odd question.
The cheese grater for shredding the cakes
How small should they be chunked into? I have a small one that could sliver a cake nicely. Looking forward to trying this out when my cakes are ready.
In my journal I have a pic of the grater and the size holes I use. And a pic of it all grated.
Thanks. So pencil sized chunks. Roughly. Aughta have that lying around.
Cambodians are in the works.
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Whiskey Man]
#24986350 - 02/11/18 02:41 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's what I've done Cambodian. Gonna fruit the Ecuador from cake to get prints (precautionary measure). Then same with the koh sumai. Then I'll probably have another go if all works well.
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Mateja
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I use the smallest holes to grate the cakes.
One factor in the great success of this method is the fast colonization of bulk substrate.
So the bigger volume of spawn you can produce the better 
That being said, even the larger holes on the cheese grater will still produce a volume that does the job
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Edited by Mateja (02/11/18 04:02 PM)
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Mateja]
#24986476 - 02/11/18 03:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think you mean surface area. The volume is the same in both cases.
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: JHOVA]
#24986531 - 02/11/18 04:05 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope I´m pretty sure I mean volume. You´re thinking about mass perhaps?
The surface area increases that´s correct.
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Mateja]
#24986554 - 02/11/18 04:12 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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grating cakes doesnt increase or decrease volume or mass, it increases the surface area and thus inoculation points.
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: JHOVA] 1
#24986608 - 02/11/18 04:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grating a cake increases the surface area and the volume of the cake but not the mass.
A balloon increases in volume when blown up even tho it does not increase in mass.
From google: "Volume. The amount of space that a substance or object occupies, or that is enclosed within a container."
A grated cheese cake takes up more space than a whole BRF cake 
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Mateja]
#24987232 - 02/11/18 06:17 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said:
Grating a cake increases the surface area and the volume of the cake but not the mass.
A balloon increases in volume when blown up even tho it does not increase in mass.
From google: "Volume. The amount of space that a substance or object occupies, or that is enclosed within a container."
A grated cheese cake takes up more space than a whole BRF cake
I don't mean to offend, but that makes no sense. When you inflate a balloon the latex is literally stretching, the polymers in the latex are elongating. When you grate BRF cake you are just taking a big chunk and making into smaller chunks. If it takes up more volume after it is grated it is from small air pockets between the grated chunks. The grated cake literally cannot take up more volume. That would be like saying a puzzle takes up more space, aka volume, in the box than it does when it's put together.
Although smaller chunk size makes sense as this can increase inoculation points of the substrate.
Edited by bradburydoom (02/11/18 06:18 PM)
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Mateja
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: bradburydoom] 1
#24987245 - 02/11/18 06:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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bradburydoom said:
If it takes up more volume after it is grated it is from small air pockets between the grated chunks.
Yes that is correct, air pockets and larger surface area is what pumps the VOLUME up
I can choose to cram together the grated cake back into it´s original form real quick and that 'cake' would have a slightly bigger volume than the original BRF cake. I can also choose to squeeze the shit out of the grated cake and maybe I can even compress it down to a smaller volume than the original BRF cake.
Does this make more sense?
The volume of the same heap of ingredients can change, but the mass stays the same.
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Edited by Mateja (02/11/18 06:31 PM)
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mushroomnate
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bradburydoom said:
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Mateah said:
Grating a cake increases the surface area and the volume of the cake but not the mass.
A balloon increases in volume when blown up even tho it does not increase in mass.
From google: "Volume. The amount of space that a substance or object occupies, or that is enclosed within a container."
A grated cheese cake takes up more space than a whole BRF cake
I don't mean to offend, but that makes no sense. When you inflate a balloon the latex is literally stretching, the polymers in the latex are elongating. When you grate BRF cake you are just taking a big chunk and making into smaller chunks. If it takes up more volume after it is grated it is from small air pockets between the grated chunks. The grated cake literally cannot take up more volume. That would be like saying a puzzle takes up more space, aka volume, in the box than it does when it's put together.
Although smaller chunk size makes sense as this can increase inoculation points of the substrate.
I've always thought of it as "fluffing" it up.It takes up more space fluffed,but if I were to pack it all back into the original half pint it would fit.Even tho when grated it may take double the area,when I calculate my ratio I call a half pint cake just that.One half pint spawn.
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Mateja
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: mushroomnate] 1
#24987280 - 02/11/18 06:40 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I call it an ounce spawn, cause there´s about 30g of BRF in a cake 
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