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 mushroomnate
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Here's an update on a couple of my PE tubs:
 
Getting some pins,but also some blobs.
Exciting either way.
2.5qt small flush/cluster.
 
Nice side fruits on this 7.2qt
 
Edited by mushroomnate (04/25/18 06:30 PM)
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 flyhighfunguy
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I posted this in the shoebox thread but figured id post it here as well to get some more opinions.
I recently dunked all my shoeboxes for 2 hours to prepare for a second flush.
There are a ton of pins but, similar to my first flush, I think it looks like only some of them are maturing while the majority are not. However, they look healthy and don't look aborted at all to me.
I'm wondering, should I bottom water to help the whole pinset mature? Or is bottom watering not needed after a dunk?
Any advice would be appreciated. I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of potential mushrooms 
    
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Enkidu
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You could try if you'd like
That is a real nice pin set for flush two so maybe it does need water.
How many hours did you let the water sit for the first rehydrate?
In the end if you feel like you want to give it water just in case then do so.
Maybe try and start testing for weight.
Try and get a feel for what the sub feels like (weight wise) before and during flush one.
Then compare how it feels (weight wise) after you harvest flush one. Should be lighter.
That can help give a feel for when the sub is hydrated or not.
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Enkidu
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Quote:
mushroomnate said:
Nice side fruits for sure
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flyhighfunguy
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 Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn  [Re: Enkidu]
#25165300 - 04/25/18 06:55 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Enkidu said:
You could try if you'd like
That is a real nice pin set for flush two so maybe it does need water.
How many hours did you let the water sit for the first rehydrate?
In the end if you feel like you want to give it water just in case then do so.
Maybe try and start testing for weight.
Try and get a feel for what the sub feels like (weight wise) before and during flush one.
Then compare how it feels (weight wise) after you harvest flush one. Should be lighter.
That can help give a feel for when the sub is hydrated or not.
I filled the shoeboxes up with water and let them sit for 2 hours. I weighed the sub down with another shoebox that was filled with water. Some of them stuck to the bottom of the shoebox and didnt require being weighted down tho.
I put the dub tub back on instead of putting the lid on like i did in the begining of the first flush.
It feels maybe slighty lighter than the first flush but not terribly light i dont think. A lot of the first flush pins didnt mature too tho.
So you think that bottom watering couldnt hurt? Do you think it could damage the side pins? And is it usually pretty easy to dump the water out without the sub moving around?
Heres a picture of the first flush, as you can see theres still a lot of tiny pins that never did anything.
 
Edited by flyhighfunguy (04/25/18 07:00 PM)
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Enkidu
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Idk hard for me to say.
I usually just let the flush ride out.
But, I don't think an hour or two of extra water would hurt.
Either way I wouldn't worry much. I think the sub will still give you about the same overall weight whether you get it in 2 flushes or flush a third time to get it.
Maybe the sub wastes some nutes on the pins but idk because they can recolonized them for energy anyway.  I'm definitely no expert
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Enkidu
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Enkidu]
#25165316 - 04/25/18 07:04 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Those pins probably didn't do much because they were late to form compared to the first ones and I imagine the energy and water was going toward the more promising fruits.
My bad maybe you already said this, how much spawn did you use? 1 quart or 2?
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Enkidu
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Enkidu]
#25165325 - 04/25/18 07:07 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's a pretty nice pin set.
I would probably bottom water a couple hours.
How long has it been since the original rehydrate?
I have let sub rehydrate for many hours before too.
And i've read RR talk about rehydrating overnight.
I don't think it would hurt at all.
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flyhighfunguy
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Enkidu]
#25165341 - 04/25/18 07:14 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Enkidu said:
That's a pretty nice pin set.
I would probably bottom water a couple hours.
How long has it been since the original rehydrate?
I have let sub rehydrate for many hours before too.
And i've read RR talk about rehydrating overnight.
I don't think it would hurt at all.
The original 2 hour dunk was about 11-12 days ago. Do you think its too soon for a bottom water?
I used 3 brf cakes to 2 quarts of cvg in some of them, and 4 brf cakes to 2 quarts of cvg in the others. So i think people would consider that 1.5-2 quarts spawn to 2 quarts sub.
So you think i should just let the water sit there for 2 hours and then dump it out? How much water do you recommend using for a shoebox?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (04/25/18 07:22 PM)
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Enkidu
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I would fill it so it doesn't reach and ruin the top layer. So however much you can hold on the sides. Doesnt matter too much. Probably don't need a ton, maybe a few shot glasses, I just randomly pour some until it reaches below the top layer. Yeah I would do a couple hours or so.
Yeah 11 days is quite some time.
Well done on flush two bro that looks amazing, im sure they would appreciate the water but I could be wrong.
I don't think it would hurt at all
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flyhighfunguy
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Enkidu]
#25165374 - 04/25/18 07:27 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Enkidu said:
I would fill it so it doesn't reach and ruin the top layer. So however much you can hold on the sides. Doesnt matter too much. Probably don't need a ton, maybe a few shot glasses, I just randomly pour some until it reaches below the top layer. Yeah I would do a couple hours or so.
Yeah 11 days is quite some time.
Well done on flush two bro that looks amazing, im sure they would appreciate the water but I could be wrong.
I don't think it would hurt at all
Thanks man. I was pretty surprised at how many pins there are too, im hoping i can get them all to actually mature.
Alright, ill probably give it a couple hour bottom water tonight then. Do you usually have trouble dumping the water out without the sub moving around? When i dumped the water out after dunking them i found that it took a while to get every drop of excess water out, and i had to be very careful otherwise the sub slid around.
Edited by flyhighfunguy (04/25/18 07:28 PM)
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Enkidu
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Yeah it can be a pain sometimes. I just try and hold the sub relatively if possible with my hand trying not to let it slide down flush with the tub to block the water in.
Longer it's in water the softer and more fragile it will be so keep that in mind.
Sometimes if in lucky and the sub holds I can flip it basically out of the tub and hold it in my hand while I pour out the water and hold it upside down to shake out the last drops but I always end up with some too
But don't worry or stress man it will be fine, whatever works, you won't fuck it up. I've broken and dropped plenty of subs, it happens
You can always do more tubs and get more fruits
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flyhighfunguy
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Enkidu]
#25165481 - 04/25/18 08:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Enkidu said:
Yeah it can be a pain sometimes. I just try and hold the sub relatively if possible with my hand trying not to let it slide down flush with the tub to block the water in.
Longer it's in water the softer and more fragile it will be so keep that in mind.
Sometimes if in lucky and the sub holds I can flip it basically out of the tub and hold it in my hand while I pour out the water and hold it upside down to shake out the last drops but I always end up with some too
But don't worry or stress man it will be fine, whatever works, you won't fuck it up. I've broken and dropped plenty of subs, it happens
You can always do more tubs and get more fruits
Alright ill try to be as careful as possible then.
If i need to hold the sub in place, would touching the pins damage them? Theres pins pretty much everywhere so it would be hard to touch the sub and not touch pins.
Also, if i didnt provide enough water for all the pins during this flush would the pins just stay there until i rehydrated for the next flush, and then mature during the next flush? Or would not providing enough water cause them to completely die off?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (04/25/18 08:12 PM)
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Enkidu
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Probably just grow small.
Yeah you damage them but it will be alright you have like 100 more 
The fruits will be what the sub can push based on waterand nute supply
Just make more tubs if you need more fruits and, don't worry so much
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Shineonyoucrazy
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Re: BRF to bulk/cakes as spawn [Re: Enkidu]
#25167517 - 04/26/18 06:35 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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That early cluster is going to be a fatty, and more pins coming every time I look
 
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mushroomnate
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Lookin real nice!
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Thanks man and thanks for the inspiration with the thread. Right now I have some heavy stuff going on in my life and this is keeping me sane
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MadHatter333
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Nice pins coming in on these two Cased PB boxes 
Think I’ll case from now on
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mushroomnate
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Those are nice!
I've been thinking the same,casing or at least a top layer at spawn.My bare(uncased)tubs didn't do as great as I had hoped(mostly side pins),and my cased did a lot better.Could be my shit surface conditions tho.
Edited by mushroomnate (04/26/18 07:18 PM)
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Whiskey Man
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My PEs are colonizing their minitubs fast as hell.
My GTs are taking their sweet ass time.
Cant wait.
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