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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Shrooms4life]
    #24936329 - 01/23/18 01:54 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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You don't need to fan them out unless you mist too much and cause pooling water.




I do go a tad heavy on misting - lighter is better.

Lid on until pinset as desired, then increase FAE to fruit by flipping lid & stop the direct misting?

Thanks guys (and gals, I see), I appreciate the help. Too many noob questions, I am sorry about that.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: OranguTrump]
    #24936380 - 01/23/18 02:24 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Idk if you are supposed to stop misting during fruiting or Not? I've never seen any reason not to so I do it even up till about to be harvested.

Edited by Shrooms4life (01/23/18 02:25 PM)

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Shrooms4life]
    #24936455 - 01/23/18 02:58 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe he meant stop direct misting versus letting it fall?

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Zachsonpub]
    #24937367 - 01/23/18 08:23 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

You can mist harder and more often if your pushing strong FAE. Misting should be a secondary response to lots of FAE.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24937982 - 01/24/18 06:46 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, I have read through all of this thread. Damn! its overwhelming with all it's info. 

I decided to try it out myself, followed the TEK, and I have a few boxes that look like this. This is the part I am not sure about, when do I flip the lids or dubtub?  I added a 1/4" top layer when I spawned  and my surfaces look like this, should start fruiting conditions? Is there a way to tell when you are at 100% colonization if you added a top layer?
 

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: orchitis01] * 1
    #24937992 - 01/24/18 06:53 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I am not sure if it is the lighting or not, but looks like I see brown coir, indicating dry coir.

For fruiting

Let it go, it will start to knot up just fine with the lid snapped on. I leave mine snapped tight until I have my pin set in. When it is fairly even and they are about 1/8- 1/4 inch tall. Then I just pop the latches. This gives a gap all the way around that allows FAE for fruiting. Mine just grow up and lift the lid now, lol. When I see this, is about the time I "pop" the lid and increase FAE.



I MAY even wait another day or 2. This depends on the development of the small pins. I could mist a bit or just leave snapped shut another day or 2 so the small ones don't dry. This will depend on YOUR environment if it COULD be an issue. Letting them get a slight bit bigger before popping the lid wont hurt. These lids allow decent air exchange even when snapped shut.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #24938008 - 01/24/18 07:09 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for you reply. you're 100% correct, that coir is brown and drier, almost like it is when you buy it. I wasn't sure if you should let the top layer get like that or not.  So, do you suggest misting until its almost field capacity(ish) or the closest you can get to field capacity via misting?

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: orchitis01] * 1
    #24938029 - 01/24/18 07:30 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Mist GENTLY, not to much at once. ONLY until it glistens.

HERE is a good guide for surface conditions.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: TheMadHatter420] * 2
    #24940509 - 01/25/18 07:58 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

ape shoebox still pushing out fruits:thumbup:


another ape shoebox(older pic)


the larger 'bootbox' had shorties but still put out an impressive yield

2.87oz dry from 3qts 1:1  not bad but meh. shorties are annoying. i did not dunk or rehydrate.
i bet the second flush will have larger fuller fruits. ive been making my bulk on the wet side and been seeing miles of shorties..:shake:

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #24940626 - 01/25/18 09:24 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

So my bacterial spawn only ended up giving me 37 grams dried out of 3 shoeboxes, I'm not happy about it but I learned a lot asbout surface conditions and dialing in my gh in the process!

Also I've got a clean clone tissue to agar that's now gone to grains!

My next boxes will look great mark my words :wink:

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Shrooms4life]
    #24940639 - 01/25/18 09:30 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

do me a favor. with your next round just leave 1 shoebox lid on, outside the gh and ignore the fuck out of it.(if you havent already)
might be surprised which ones performs better with less effort. GH are fun once you get them dialed in but i hate multitasking...

from the op...

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super multitasking.




the tote not the grower:awesomenod:


on the flip side im putting up a gh myself for other mushrooms so ill be:takingnotes::thumbup:

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #24941012 - 01/25/18 12:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

has anyone ever tried growing Pan Cyans in shoeboxes?

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: endtrack]
    #24941086 - 01/25/18 01:16 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

yes. i failed but i got round 2 through 12 comin' up


and other people have. usually in GH. its nothing new or special but doing it within the tote and having awesome results would be badass..

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #24941160 - 01/25/18 01:49 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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yes. i failed but i got round 2 through 12 comin' up


and other people have. usually in GH. its nothing new or special but doing it within the tote and having awesome results would be badass..



Do you use coffee in your pan substrate? I haven't tried it myself but heard it helps.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Doc9151]
    #24941171 - 01/25/18 01:56 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

i hate coffee. so no :oldman: just coco. doing coco and sand mixes real soon for pans. similar to mycolorado:thumbup:

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: mushboy]
    #24941180 - 01/25/18 02:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I've been following this thread for a while now and I was wondering what happened to your Pan grow... I'm on my 2nd run of shoeboxes.  I didn't even bother to post pics from the first run.  They were all side mushies... Couldn't get the surface right. Well I have this one in a mono tub. This is also the first time i tried putting a layer of coir on top of grains like I did here.  Pins in 8 days!!!
These are burmas.


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: CultiCat]
    #24941289 - 01/25/18 02:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)


Pan Cyan in shoeboxes


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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Germs] * 1
    #24941296 - 01/25/18 03:03 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

:megusta:

Awesome creatures. :rockon:

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: CultiCat]
    #24941298 - 01/25/18 03:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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I've been following this thread for a while now and I was wondering what happened to your Pan grow... I'm on my 2nd run of shoeboxes.  I didn't even bother to post pics from the first run.  They were all side mushies... Couldn't get the surface right. Well I have this one in a mono tub. This is also the first time i tried putting a layer of coir on top of grains like I did here.  Pins in 8 days!!!
These are burmas.



Burmas normally flush out real nice for me! Keep us posted man.

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Re: Making shoeboxes [Re: Shrooms4life]
    #24941314 - 01/25/18 03:12 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Shrooms4life said:
Quote:

CultiCat said:
I've been following this thread for a while now and I was wondering what happened to your Pan grow... I'm on my 2nd run of shoeboxes.  I didn't even bother to post pics from the first run.  They were all side mushies... Couldn't get the surface right. Well I have this one in a mono tub. This is also the first time i tried putting a layer of coir on top of grains like I did here.  Pins in 8 days!!!
These are burmas.



Burmas normally flush out real nice for me! Keep us posted man.



Will Do... The ones in the skull in my signature are Burmas
Germs those look awesome!!! I just started a box of Galindoi grains cased in 50/50 cow manure compost and coir. Id post a pic but there's really nothing to look at atm...

updated pic 1/26

Edited by CultiCat (01/26/18 08:47 AM)

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