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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26681682 - 05/19/20 07:00 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

That's not what he said. You're the one making shit up


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #26681717 - 05/19/20 07:25 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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That's not what he said. You're the one making shit up



Koods asked what Obama should be investigated for.  The answer was for helping fabricate a story to cover DNC corruption, not because Russian hackers were charged.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26681722 - 05/19/20 07:28 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

You quoted what he said. Then you implied he said something else.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #26681724 - 05/19/20 07:29 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

I also quoted what I said.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26681726 - 05/19/20 07:30 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Yup... you said there's nothing wrong with investigating.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Enlil]
    #26681733 - 05/19/20 07:33 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

I also quoted a story about how Trump-Russia collusion was fabricated to cover the DNC scandal.  The Mueller report could not find sufficient evidence that the Trump campaign "coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities"


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26681747 - 05/19/20 07:37 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

Doubtful anyone read that story.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26681803 - 05/19/20 08:04 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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I also quoted a story about how Trump-Russia collusion was fabricated to cover the DNC scandal.  The Mueller report could not find sufficient evidence that the Trump campaign "coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities"






How the fuck did this happen then ?

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Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote. “The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”




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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26681953 - 05/19/20 09:21 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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I also quoted a story about how Trump-Russia collusion was fabricated to cover the DNC scandal.  The Mueller report could not find sufficient evidence that the Trump campaign "coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities"






How the fuck did this happen then ?

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Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote. “The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”






It was all a setup.  Trump did nothing wrong.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26681969 - 05/19/20 09:28 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

That was Volume 2.  As Wikipedia summarized:

Volume I of the report concludes that the investigation did not find sufficient evidence that the campaign "coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities".

Volume II of the report addresses obstruction of justice.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26682984 - 05/20/20 10:10 AM (1 month, 21 days ago)

If Trump did nothing wrong like Meltdowner says then volume 2 should detail an unprecedented level of cooperation rather than obstruction .
  Trump using the power of his office to influence the investigation invalidates the findings in volume 1 in my opinion .


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26683411 - 05/20/20 01:53 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

The potential obstruction of justice charge was just something Mueller threw in to cover for his failure to find anything related to coordination with Russia, and to give his followers something to talk about when the official investigation ended with a big nothing burger.  Let's look at the specifics you provided, shall we?

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Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote.



So Mueller discovered that a president has influence?

Kind of like he 'discovered' that the Russians are spying on us?  :lol:

That guy puts out some ground breaking information.

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“The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”



No duh.  The FBI was caught trying to prevent Trump from being president, and some wonder why he doesn't trust them?


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26683420 - 05/20/20 01:57 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

How exactly did the FBI try to prevent trump from becoming president if they kept their investigation secret until after the election?

Instead of giving us a link, explain in your own words how the FBI tried to influence the election against trump.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26683426 - 05/20/20 01:59 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

Watch the video, then ask the FBI.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26683448 - 05/20/20 02:08 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

Ok the first interview was a guy saying the FBI used to try to keep socialists out of the organization. I stopped listening there.

Can you tell us how the FBI tried to keep trump from being elected. Be specific to their actions that they took to further this goal.


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26683462 - 05/20/20 02:16 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

If you won't trust the FBI itself, why will you trust me?

Anyway, they were floating Russia conspiracy theories LONG before the election.  Were you not aware of this?


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26683465 - 05/20/20 02:18 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

Can you answer the question?


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26683467 - 05/20/20 02:19 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

I did... "they were floating Russia conspiracy theories LONG before the election."


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26683472 - 05/20/20 02:21 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

So you have nothing


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Re: #ObamaGate [Re: koods]
    #26683479 - 05/20/20 02:24 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

I have the FBI admitting they tried to stop Trump in the video above.  If you call that "nothing", you're an even greater make believer than I thought.


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