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Cased grain question
    #24917453 - 01/16/18 03:25 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

So I've been having a lot of success with fruiting trays straight from milo grain with a vermiculite casing layer. A problem I'm running into is how messy and sticky the vermiculite is on the fruit bodies it's just so time consuming to clean that I'd rather the spend the time normally spent on cleaning just making more trays. Would switching to a peat moss or other kind of casing make cleaning the fruits makes much quicker? Anyone had much success with uncased grains?  i.e I'd rather make 6 good uncased trays with no  cleaning to do than 4 great trays with lots of cleaning

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Re: Cased grain question [Re: frankwhite85]
    #24917458 - 01/16/18 03:28 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

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frankwhite85 said:
So I've been having a lot of success with fruiting trays straight from milo grain with a vermiculite casing layer. A problem I'm running into is how messy and sticky the vermiculite is on the fruit bodies it's just so time consuming to clean that I'd rather the spend the time normally spent on cleaning just making more trays. Would switching to a peat moss or other kind of casing make cleaning the fruits makes much quicker? Anyone had much success with uncased grains?  i.e I'd rather make 6 good uncased trays with no  cleaning to do than 4 great trays with lots of cleaning




Just spawn ur grain to coir instead of casing with verm. Spawn to coir and dont case. They come off nice and easy. I just cut the dirty end off

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Re: Cased grain question [Re: nube424]
    #24917610 - 01/16/18 07:00 AM (7 years, 1 day ago)

You would get much better results if you spawn to coir as a bulk sub. Its simple, you just mix them together at X ratio.

But cased grain does work. You shouldn't really have to clean the fruits, when I dry mine in my dehyrator most of the dirt just falls off.
If you were to switch to peat, you would have to adjust the PH with hydrated lime and pasteurize the casing.

I really suggest you start spawning to coir!


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Re: Cased grain question [Re: mushpunx]
    #24918709 - 01/16/18 04:08 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Spawn to coir all the way. I use coir/vermiculite/gypsum, which you'll see alot of ppl on here abbreviating as "CVG".

Altho it isn't necessary, I case my colonized grain+CVG with 1/2" layer of CVG. Then when around 30% colonized, I introduce fruiting conditions (fresh air exchange). I personally get much better yeilds this way (have done many cased vs. uncased monotub comparison tests), but your even if you don't do this and just fruit it uncased you'll still get decent flushes of the fun guys.

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Re: Cased grain question [Re: frankwhite85]
    #24918722 - 01/16/18 04:14 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

Coir

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Re: Cased grain question [Re: Apples in Mono]
    #24918726 - 01/16/18 04:16 PM (7 years, 1 day ago)

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Apples in Mono said:
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