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Gymnopilus luteofolius grow * 11
    #24911240 - 01/13/18 03:55 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)


Hey all, here are some details about a Gymnopilus luteofolius grow I'm working on. I'll update as things move along. Any advice is very welcome!
A common tek seems to be inoculating sterilized wood-based substrates in bags, I went for bucket tekked pellets/coir in shoeboxes instead and it's working pretty well.
I listed threads I referenced for this grow at the bottom.

*Updated 1-18-18 with more pictures and harvests. There haven't been clearly defined flushes with these tubs, every few days there are more mature mushrooms and more pins coming up. If it was MS I'd attribute that to different strains, but since this is from a clone it seems that's just how these gyms get down.

**Updated 2-10-18 few more pictures, 4th harvest of gh tub and 5th of flipped lid/open air. There are some randomly maturing pins that have to be picked about once a week other than the harvests I'm counting. Tubs took a break from pinning for about 10 days then flushed again, got dunked, and are continuing to flush. I expected these to die by now but will continue to update until they succumb to something.

***Updated 2-16-18 more pictures, 5th harvest of gh tub and a couple chunky guys poppin in the open air tub. Bioassay results postponed.

Timeline
Cl 10-29-17
t1 11-10-17  -> Oats 11-21-17  -> Sub 12-13-17  -> Pins 1-1-18
t2 11-21-17
t3 12-1-17
t4 12-13-17
t5 1-6-18 (I get pretty lazy about transfers)

I cloned a few Gymnopilus luteofolius back in October, and transferred from the best recovering plate. All original plates had bacteria.
The first transfer grew out without apparent bacteria so I transferred again but also inoculated two quarts of whole oats.

I kept all plates from the chosen clone on forward to see what they did.
The original clone plate became heavily contaminated with bacteria growing all around the mycelium but eventually the mycelium grew over the bacteria.

The plate I inoculated the oats with (t1) eventually fruited.


The other plates have all fruited after a month from transfer.


While the mycelium grew thickly tomatose over agar, it was not like that on the oats.
I waited for a while (maybe a week) after full colonization because it didn't look like full colonization.
Upon closer examination with magnification I could see that the mycelium had indeed colonized the oats, just very whispy.


For the bulk sub I bucket tekked this recipe:
3 cups douglas fir pellets
200 grams of coir
9 cups of boiling water
= 7 loose packed quarts filled to the brim

I used 4 quarts of this substrate for the Gyms
so each shoebox was 1:2

I mixed most of the sub and spawn and then covered with a top layer
No casing

The mycelium continued to behave strangely in the shoeboxes, it became rhizo and then this stuff happened:

I have no idea whats going on there. The dots sketch me out but both subs keep chuggin along.
One of those thick white patches grew up to the surface level and looks just like the matted mycelium on the substrates surface.

One of the shoeboxes was fully colonized, the other had about 30% surface uncovered by the matted mycelium but began pinning first.
I stuck the fully colonized one in a greenhouse and flipped the lid on the one with uncolonized surface.
I'm not trying to compare the fruiting techniques, I just didn't have more room in the GH.
If I do more shoeboxes of these I'll probably just open air them again cause it's going so well.

The GH tub is just catching up, but has a lot more pins than the other. I think this is more to do with the better colonization than the GH though. It's not a fancy GH.
The fruits in the GH are shorter than those in the other tub.
The flipped lid tub has been spending most of the day open air, 2 feet below a 6500k light.
The GH tub is about 4 feet from a 5000k light and the fruits were leaning strongly towards the light.




GH tub vs Flipped Lid/Open Air






gh 5th



Flipped lid/Open Air shoebox
First pins:


A couple days later:


Before and after a few caps were cut for printing:


Before a second partial harvest:


Before 4th harvest 1-18


Before 5th harvest 1-21


Hasn't been a solid harvest in a couple weeks just small flushes with larger fruits, guy on the right is the biggest so far. Still nowhere near the size of these in nature.



GH Tub

Before 1st harvest 1-12


Before 2nd harvest 1-15
 


Before 3rd harvest 1-18


Before 4th harvest 2-2


Before 5th harvest, showing phototropic response to the crappy GH lighting


Harvest pics:
oa 1st, 2nd

gh 1st

gh 2nd, oa 3rd

gh 3rd, oa 4th

oa 5th

gh 4th

gh 5th with a few bigger specimens from the oa box


Here are some other Gymnopilus grows I referenced and recommend checking out:
Germish: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21013511/fpart/1/vc/1
D0urd3n: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21149988/fpart/1/vc/1
Stonesun: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13623272
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13669835
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20492704
Javadog: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16563986
Fortheloveofnature: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17171250/fpart/1/vc/1

Mushboy's thread was also very helpful for info about fruiting in shoeboxes:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038695/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/156

Edited by Appalachian Brony (02/16/18 01:22 PM)

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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Appalachian Brony] * 1
    #24911293 - 01/13/18 04:18 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Nice work and well documented:thumbup:


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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: inski] * 1
    #24911301 - 01/13/18 04:21 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Yeah that's awesome man!  Hella good job I think as well!!! :laugh:


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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Appalachian Brony] * 1
    #24911369 - 01/13/18 04:57 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: LemurLemur] * 1
    #24911673 - 01/13/18 06:59 PM (7 years, 4 days ago)

Neat! You can tell by the spore dump that they are indeed gymnopilus! ha ha

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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Spivkurl] * 1
    #24912859 - 01/14/18 07:42 AM (7 years, 3 days ago)

This is so cool. I love Gym grows


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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Appalachian Brony] * 1
    #24912929 - 01/14/18 08:27 AM (7 years, 3 days ago)

Very nice work. Gyms are beautiful


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    #24913038 - 01/14/18 09:34 AM (7 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Spivkurl] * 1
    #24923387 - 01/18/18 02:47 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks everybody!
I'm updating with some more pictures, every couple days there are more of these guys poppin up :dancer:

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Neat! You can tell by the spore dump that they are indeed gymnopilus! ha ha




indeed! they're starting to turn their substrates orange from the dumping


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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Appalachian Brony]
    #24923793 - 01/18/18 05:29 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

If I can find the different types of gymnopilus that I found in 2017 this year, I will probably try to get some running indoors. The junonius I came across were super nice to look at and consume. Fun. Thanks for the inspiration!

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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24923873 - 01/18/18 05:54 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Appalachian Brony] * 1
    #24924826 - 01/19/18 03:00 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

How do gyms compare to cubes trip/ side effect wise?


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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: LemurLemur] * 1
    #24924900 - 01/19/18 05:27 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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How do gyms compare to cubes trip/ side effect wise?




They're a whole lot weaker, not very good for eating but they are a really cool find/to grow


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    #24924913 - 01/19/18 05:48 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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How do gyms compare to cubes trip/ side effect wise?




What's a cube?!  no just kidding...

But really, at this point, I haven't had a cubensis for around 7-8 years (Have some boxes in fruiting conditions now). So when I found three different kinds of gymnopilus in my local area last year, I enjoyed the experience thoroughly.

Changed my life, I might even wager.

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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24924917 - 01/19/18 05:50 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't found any yet but I keep my eyes peeled , I'm dying to find some!


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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24929535 - 01/20/18 03:42 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

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How do gyms compare to cubes trip/ side effect wise?




What's a cube?!  no just kidding...

But really, at this point, I haven't had a cubensis for around 7-8 years (Have some boxes in fruiting conditions now). So when I found three different kinds of gymnopilus in my local area last year, I enjoyed the experience thoroughly.

Changed my life, I might even wager.




I'm wondering about this too, I haven't eaten mushrooms in a couple years and never more Gyms than for the sake of a taste.

Supposedly they have some other compounds similar to those found in kava kava that are slightly sedative. There's not a whole lot on here about the experience, and reports vary significantly with suggested dosages ranging from 5 to 30 grams. None that I could find regarding cultivated Gyms, not sure if that would make a difference though.

What were your experiences like Spivkurl?


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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Appalachian Brony] * 1
    #24930036 - 01/20/18 07:20 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

Spivkurl said:
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LemurLemur said:
How do gyms compare to cubes trip/ side effect wise?




What's a cube?!  no just kidding...

But really, at this point, I haven't had a cubensis for around 7-8 years (Have some boxes in fruiting conditions now). So when I found three different kinds of gymnopilus in my local area last year, I enjoyed the experience thoroughly.

Changed my life, I might even wager.




I'm wondering about this too, I haven't eaten mushrooms in a couple years and never more Gyms than for the sake of a taste.

Supposedly they have some other compounds similar to those found in kava kava that are slightly sedative. There's not a whole lot on here about the experience, and reports vary significantly with suggested dosages ranging from 5 to 30 grams. None that I could find regarding cultivated Gyms, not sure if that would make a difference though.

What were your experiences like Spivkurl?




Here's a couple of my earlier threads which referred to my experiences with 2017's gymnopilus finds. They influenced some of my last album. :smile:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24611394/page/4

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24628357/page/2

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24649426/page/3

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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24983516 - 02/10/18 03:47 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Updated 2-10


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Re: Gymnopilus luteofolius grow [Re: Appalachian Brony]
    #24996690 - 02/15/18 02:59 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:popcorn:

I got a gym print so wanted this for reference. Thanks for the great write up and future help :smile:
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    #24996731 - 02/15/18 03:23 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome grow, notes, and pics!


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