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Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes
    #24903172 - 01/10/18 03:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Who here puts a casing layer on top of their bulk substrate?  Just wondering what more people do because im deciding if I should or not.  Thanks
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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: psilocyanide]
    #24903176 - 01/10/18 03:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Cubes don't benefit from a casing layer, so unless your climate is extremely arid, or you messed up the moisture content of the bulk substrate upon preparation there's no need for a casing layer.


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: hamloaf]
    #24903192 - 01/10/18 03:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I usually pseudo case but I will be casing at 100% to see if can skip misting.


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: hamloaf]
    #24903200 - 01/10/18 03:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Cubes don't benefit from a casing layer, so unless your climate is extremely arid, or you messed up the moisture content of the bulk substrate upon preparation there's no need for a casing layer.




Damn, really?  Why do people do it?  Would it atleast act as a little bit of a contam barrier, since its the only part open to air and is non-nutritious?


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: JHOVA]
    #24903203 - 01/10/18 03:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I usually pseudo case...




What do you mean?


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: psilocyanide]
    #24903237 - 01/10/18 04:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

1/2 inch top layer of coir at spawning


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: psilocyanide]
    #24903311 - 01/10/18 04:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Cubes don't benefit from a casing layer, so unless your climate is extremely arid, or you messed up the moisture content of the bulk substrate upon preparation there's no need for a casing layer.




Damn, really?  Why do people do it?  Would it atleast act as a little bit of a contam barrier, since its the only part open to air and is non-nutritious?



Maybe not cubes but Newbz benefit from a top layer of coir at 100% colonization. I have yet to see a dissapointing pinset with a top layer of coir. But if you feel that you can create perfect conditions without a casing layer then you probably wouldn´t be asking about the casing layer :shrug: so my advice to you is to try to grow with our without and see if you notice any difference :stoned:


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So, why bother saying "why bother"? it is what it is. The purpose is to experiment with procedures that venture outside the norm, is it necessary for growing mushrooms? Big nope. Is it fucking cool to think and experiment? Resounding yes.


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: psilocyanide]
    #24903334 - 01/10/18 05:00 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Cubes don't benefit from a casing layer, so unless your climate is extremely arid, or you messed up the moisture content of the bulk substrate upon preparation there's no need for a casing layer.




Damn, really?  Why do people do it?  Would it atleast act as a little bit of a contam barrier, since its the only part open to air and is non-nutritious?



Because it benefits the grower not thr species


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: Mateja]
    #24903347 - 01/10/18 05:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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psilocyanide said:
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hamloaf said:
Cubes don't benefit from a casing layer, so unless your climate is extremely arid, or you messed up the moisture content of the bulk substrate upon preparation there's no need for a casing layer.




Damn, really?  Why do people do it?  Would it atleast act as a little bit of a contam barrier, since its the only part open to air and is non-nutritious?



Maybe not cubes but Newbz benefit from a top layer of coir at 100% colonization. I have yet to see a dissapointing pinset with a top layer of coir. But if you feel that you can create perfect conditions without a casing layer then you probably wouldn´t be asking about the casing layer :shrug: so my advice to you is to try to grow with our without and see if you notice any difference :stoned:




Ive done it both ways before, but I havent done this in 3-4 years.  I have a lot of spawn about to be ready and I wanna do it right. I bought a huge block of peat moss and some other things without thinking, when I bought my bulk sub, because I thought people usually case their bulk sub.  Im always with my grow though, so I can mist as much as needed.  If its not going to help, I wont do it, though I cased a couple shoeboxes already.  I used water crystals in one as well to see if it works good.


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: psilocyanide]
    #24903348 - 01/10/18 05:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

but none of my tubs are fully colonized, let alone pinning/fruiting, yet.


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: psilocyanide]
    #24903365 - 01/10/18 05:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

As I said if you feel 100% comfortable in that you can produce perfect surface conditions and you have the time to watch over your grow then go for it. But if you are like me and have had not so great performance without the casing layer then adding one is VERY beneficial. I feel that I have learned a lot about surface conditions by watching the pins develop inside the casing layer. I might do the next tub without a casing layer just to see what I manage to create.


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So, why bother saying "why bother"? it is what it is. The purpose is to experiment with procedures that venture outside the norm, is it necessary for growing mushrooms? Big nope. Is it fucking cool to think and experiment? Resounding yes.


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: Mateja]
    #24903393 - 01/10/18 05:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I do not use casing layers..... However I'm thinking my shoeboxes could probably benefit from one.  I've had some bruising and drying which a light casing would probably help.... Bigger substrates like monotubs are a little more self-sustainable and "grower forgivable" as far as proper surface conditions go I think.


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: psilocyanide]
    #24903452 - 01/10/18 06:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Cubes don't benefit from a casing layer, so unless your climate is extremely arid, or you messed up the moisture content of the bulk substrate upon preparation there's no need for a casing layer.




Damn, really?  Why do people do it?  Would it atleast act as a little bit of a contam barrier, since its the only part open to air and is non-nutritious?



Because it benefits the grower not thr species



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Furthermore, adding a casing will not act as a contam barrier.  It's the other way around actually.  Anytime steps into the cultivation process are added vectors for contamination are opened up.


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: hamloaf]
    #24903454 - 01/10/18 06:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: cronicr]
    #24903467 - 01/10/18 06:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I like to case penis only

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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: Bird_Guts]
    #24903507 - 01/10/18 06:29 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with the pros...... I once lost a real promising tub from a casing gone bad.  So no casing for me, I guess if I was running some APE I would probably try a casing. 

        Does APE need to be cased?  I haven't grown any yet...:shrug:


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: Threads from God89]
    #24903512 - 01/10/18 06:31 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nope


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: cronicr]
    #24903519 - 01/10/18 06:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:rockon:


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: Threads from God89]
    #24903551 - 01/10/18 06:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Good info in here guys, thank you every1


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Re: Poll: Do you case your bulk cubes [Re: psilocyanide]
    #24903596 - 01/10/18 07:16 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

:edit: I guess this isn't a proper casing but this is what I like to do lately:

I've been putting on micropore tape or polyfill in right when I spawn my tubs, and I'll also put a 1/4-1/2" coir/verm on top at the same time.


I don't like adding a casing at full colonization, not with cubes.


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