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Skizor1337
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Different spawn mixed together???
#24900925 - 01/09/18 02:29 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hypothetically if you were to mix some WBS that has Golden Teacher MS in it as well as WBS that had lets say B+ or something else what would happen?
I almost caught myself doing this today because I mixed up my jars earlier. The thought just popped in my head.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24900946 - 01/09/18 02:39 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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it would be just fine.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Ziran]
#24900956 - 01/09/18 02:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is a chance of getting a cross but an equal chance of not but as they say a cube is a cube
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Ziran]
#24901083 - 01/09/18 03:44 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ziran said: it would be just fine.
Would you be able to see the difference in the shrooms?
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24901091 - 01/09/18 03:47 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ziran said: it would be just fine.
Would you be able to see the difference in the shrooms?
Doubtful
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24901092 - 01/09/18 03:48 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Skizor1337 said:
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Ziran said: it would be just fine.
Would you be able to see the difference in the shrooms?
probably not. your going to see what ever genes you mixed together.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Ziran]
#24901107 - 01/09/18 03:51 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't even think they'd mix. I think whichever myc grew faster would be the one that ended up fruiting.
I was doing agar work once with MS, and was using the same needle for all my syringes. Had been doing Lions Mane, Oysters, B+, GT etc. They all germinated on the agar (not purposely), and none of them would connect. All the different mycs would grow up to each other then stop.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Xerbia]
#24901118 - 01/09/18 03:55 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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the mycelium merges together at some point if they are the same species.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Ziran]
#24901123 - 01/09/18 03:58 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ziran said: the mycelium merges together at some point if they are the same species.
They wouldn't cross genetics though would they? Say half a cake is colonized by B+ and the other half GT, you'd still have fruiting from both myc rather than a hybrid fruiting right?
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Xerbia]
#24901129 - 01/09/18 04:00 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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B+ and GT are names on a syringe with cube spores in them. they are both cubes.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Ziran]
#24901139 - 01/09/18 04:05 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ziran said: B+ and GT are names on a syringe with cube spores in them. they are both cubes.
Okay I guess a better example would be PE and B+. Would you get a PE hybrid or different fruiting of PE, and B+?
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Xerbia]
#24901283 - 01/09/18 05:12 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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a cube is a cube is a cube
same species, same myc
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: myc9]
#24901605 - 01/09/18 07:17 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes. Agreed. But, why wouldn't you have different patches of mycelium? Say you had, again, some APE and B+. Spawned them. Your myc will start to grow off of each grain until it reaches the mycelium of another grain. Why would those genestics homogenize? How can they homogenize? I guess I need to do some more research.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: ChickenFarmer]
#24901616 - 01/09/18 07:21 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Genetics..,only the strong survive
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Tormato]
#24901625 - 01/09/18 07:23 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, you're saying that the stronger myc will completely overtake the other genetics? How? Does it grow over it? Or does it actually change the genetics of the mycelium? That doesn't make any sense.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: ChickenFarmer]
#24901658 - 01/09/18 07:36 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because the mycelium are compatible being of the same species the dominant genetics from the combined mycelium will prevail...does that make sense?
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Tormato]
#24901671 - 01/09/18 07:39 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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No. Prevail how? Dogs are the same beings. If a dog fucks a dog you get a mixture of genetics. It doesn't make sense that one mycelium can rewrite the genetic code of something that already exists. That's not how anything else works.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: ChickenFarmer]
#24901690 - 01/09/18 07:47 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not rewriting the genetics. If a spore of the APE variety combines with a spore of the B+ variety they still just make a cube mycelium. If you're talking about will it be a B+ that looks like a APE...well if so then whatever genetics that makes APE albino was dominant in the myc development.
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: Tormato]
#24901708 - 01/09/18 07:55 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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No not at all what's being talked about. He's not talking about spores. He's talking about already existing mycelium. I don't believe if you had a single spore of ape and a single spore of B+ they would germinate. The probabliility of that is extremely low.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10588022/page/2/fpart/2/vc/1#10588022
There's some reading with much more experience involved. (Kinda old)
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Re: Different spawn mixed together??? [Re: ChickenFarmer]
#24901765 - 01/09/18 08:20 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok if you spawn APE and B+ to the same sub and both start producing myc what will happen (as it was explained to me one time) is that both variety of cubensis will compete for dominance. Whichever myc is stronger will prevail and you will get fruits from that myc. I say genetics...only the strong survive because if you have 2 different cube types one having better genetics..chances are that will be the winner...and if I'm wrong please correct me...this is just how it was explained to me
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