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B+ Mushrooms Not Potent?
    #24899532 - 01/08/18 09:33 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Used a Nesco one setting food dehydrator to dry my first real grow. Does that cause potency loss or is that outdated info? I noticed when using a desiccant on my friends mini two cake grow of GT's they were super potent, but when I used a dehydrator on my B+ bigger grow they seemed pretty weak. We did lemon tek 2.5g each and felt a body high that only lasted 30mins or so. I also had some friends try them and said they were mild..

Could it be genetics or my method of drying?


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #24899538 - 01/08/18 09:36 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

The food dehydrator is the best way to dry. Spores are luck of the draw. Set and setting are big factors in trips. For two people tho i would say it was just a weak batch

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #24899540 - 01/08/18 09:37 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Genetics...I’ve had B+ that we’re dynomite and then I’ve had some that weren’t...same growing conditions and drying just some are killer and some aren’t :shrug:


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24899543 - 01/08/18 09:39 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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The food dehydrator is the best way to dry. Spores are luck of the draw. Set and setting are big factors in trips. For two people tho i would say it was just a weak batch




:whathesaid: I have always had some strong B+ from MS, and it most definitely depends where you get them from. Dehydrator is always the best.

I once put my dehydrator over 150F and the potency was quite weak. As soon as I dialed it back for the other flushes, it was incredibly strong.


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24899545 - 01/08/18 09:40 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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The food dehydrator is the best way to dry. Spores are luck of the draw. Set and setting are big factors in trips. For two people tho i would say it was just a weak batch



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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #24899547 - 01/08/18 09:41 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Ideally you want your dehydrator at 160-170. 150+ heat didn't do anything to your shrooms. You can deep fat fry them.

160+ denatures enzymes. So if potentially locks in potency anyway. Besides drying faster is better

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24899554 - 01/08/18 09:44 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Hell you can boil em and make tea from dried fruits.....still strong AF lol


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24899562 - 01/08/18 09:48 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Ideally you want your dehydrator at 160-170. 150+ heat didn't do anything to your shrooms. You can deep fat fry them.

160+ denatures enzymes. So if potentially locks in potency anyway. Besides drying faster is better




Perhaps. Just me and my previous roommates noticed quite a potency difference between flushes on one tub in particular. It was really weird, so I just dialed the temp back and figured that was the x factor. Could just be me assuming. Thanks for the input! :hatsoff:


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24899563 - 01/08/18 09:48 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24899565 - 01/08/18 09:50 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I appolgize for the brief hijack, but Bodhi’s “Holy Handjob” gif is cracking my shit up :laugh2:




Yeah, I just showed my girl, we were both like... wtf is happening here? :stonedjerk:


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24899567 - 01/08/18 09:51 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Was the first flush more potent? If so, I assume the second flush was less fruits but bigger? Usually smaller fruits are more potent by default.


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    #24899573 - 01/08/18 09:53 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I love bod's input but not the gif... To each their own.... The greatest thing about life.

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24899576 - 01/08/18 09:55 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Indeed, the fruits were bigger on the second flush. It's good knowing that I can go all the way up on my dehydrator (even though it's pretty dry here).

That's what people say, but it was just really weird. I've never personally had a monotub produce what felt like two different potencies. It was noticeable enough because we took less on the second flush, and tripped way harder and for longer. We were actually all pretty much sweating and having strong visuals as where it was more a mild body high with no visuals from the first flush.

Anyways, it was once upon a time. My B+ have always been solid other than that.


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24899578 - 01/08/18 09:55 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Was the first flush more potent? If so, I assume the second flush was less fruits but bigger? Usually smaller fruits are more potent by default.



Is that pretty "standard" knowledge because I seem to be getting TONS of shrooms but they don't get big(2-3 inches in length with sporing caps at 1 inch or less) but there are tons 30-65 per cake.

Edit: a bit of an exaggeration on my numbers (previously said 40-100, then I counted)

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: RockyB]
    #24899580 - 01/08/18 09:55 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I appolgize for the brief hijack, but Bodhi’s “Holy Handjob” gif is cracking my shit up :laugh2:



I love bod's input but not the gif... To each their own.... The greatest thing about life.




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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24899583 - 01/08/18 09:57 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I appolgize for the brief hijack, but Bodhi’s “Holy Handjob” gif is cracking my shit up :laugh2:



I love bod's input but not the gif... To each their own.... The greatest thing about life.




Eh...I guess different strokes for different folks :laugh2:




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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24899587 - 01/08/18 09:59 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I love bod's input but not the gif... To each their own.... The greatest thing about life.




Eh...I guess different strokes for different folks :laugh2:




Hahahaha pun intended?

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: RockyB]
    #24899589 - 01/08/18 10:00 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Was the first flush more potent? If so, I assume the second flush was less fruits but bigger? Usually smaller fruits are more potent by default.



Is that pretty "standard" knowledge because I seem to be getting TONS of shrooms but they don't get big(2-3 inches in length with sporing caps at 1 inch or less) but there are tons 40-100 per cake.




I don't think so. In my experience, I usually have decent size fruits throughout my flushes. As they go past two flushes, there is usually less, but the boomers are larger in size. Again, just my personal experience and others I have seen on here. I'm sure there's a lot of variables that go into it.


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #24899592 - 01/08/18 10:01 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

Very great answers. Guess we’ll see what the other batches bring next trip. I’ll continue using my dehydrater now that I know heat isn’t a big potency sucker.

And lol Bod’s avatar is pretty creepy, but comical at the same time :rofl:


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #24899594 - 01/08/18 10:03 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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That's what people say, but it was just really weird. I've never personally had a monotub produce what felt like two different potencies. It was noticeable enough because we took less on the second flush, and tripped way harder and for longer. We were actually all pretty much sweating and having strong visuals as where it was more a mild body high with no visuals from the first flush.



One of the draw back of MS grows...it’s all luck of the draw with spores. Possibly had 2 flushes one from one strain and the second from another. :shrug:


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: FeedYourMind]
    #24899597 - 01/08/18 10:05 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Was the first flush more potent? If so, I assume the second flush was less fruits but bigger? Usually smaller fruits are more potent by default.



Is that pretty "standard" knowledge because I seem to be getting TONS of shrooms but they don't get big(2-3 inches in length with sporing caps at 1 inch or less) but there are tons 40-100 per cake.




I don't think so. In my experience, I usually have decent size fruits throughout my flushes. As they go past two flushes, there is usually less, but the boomers are larger in size. Again, just my personal experience and others I have seen on here. I'm sure there's a lot of variables that go into it.




I'm sorry, I forgot to add that part. Yes, my second flushes get very large. It's my first flush that always have tons of smaller ones. I haven't noticed any potency issues between flushes. I'm curious between strains.  OP, was your first flush smaller than the second? Size or quantity?

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #24899607 - 01/08/18 10:09 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Very great answers. Guess we’ll see what the other batches bring next trip. I’ll continue using my dehydrater now that I know heat isn’t a big potency sucker.

And lol Bod’s avatar is pretty creepy, but comical at the same time :rofl:




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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: RockyB]
    #24899619 - 01/08/18 10:17 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Was the first flush more potent? If so, I assume the second flush was less fruits but bigger? Usually smaller fruits are more potent by default.



Is that pretty "standard" knowledge because I seem to be getting TONS of shrooms but they don't get big(2-3 inches in length with sporing caps at 1 inch or less) but there are tons 40-100 per cake.




I don't think so. In my experience, I usually have decent size fruits throughout my flushes. As they go past two flushes, there is usually less, but the boomers are larger in size. Again, just my personal experience and others I have seen on here. I'm sure there's a lot of variables that go into it.




I'm sorry, I forgot to add that part. Yes, my second flushes get very large. It's my first flush that always have tons of smaller ones. I haven't noticed any potency issues between flushes. I'm curious between strains.  OP, was your first flush smaller than the second? Size or quantity?




My first flushes seemed to be smaller but that’s because it was my first grow and I was learning how to dial in my fruiting conditions. Once I got things down things started to flow better and my flushes seemed to have gotten bigger and better. I kinda mixed them all together though so I’m not sure now what flush we consumed.


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24899622 - 01/08/18 10:20 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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Very great answers. Guess we’ll see what the other batches bring next trip. I’ll continue using my dehydrater now that I know heat isn’t a big potency sucker.

And lol Bod’s avatar is pretty creepy, but comical at the same time :rofl:




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So I’ve been told :wink: will get to that soon. I actually did a test run of Pasty plates, but got lazy around the Holiday season and never got around to utilizing them.


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #24899628 - 01/08/18 10:24 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

It’s the best way to isolate your top performers in regards to potency and quality in general


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    #24899630 - 01/08/18 10:27 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

I’ll get going on that Wednesday and Thursday on my days off since I got my second grow going now. I was just kinda figuring everything out and didn’t want to overwhelm myself my first grow.


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    #24899686 - 01/08/18 11:05 PM (7 years, 9 days ago)

I'm sorry, I forgot to add that part. Yes, my second flushes get very large. It's my first flush that always have tons of smaller ones. I haven't noticed any potency issues between flushes. I'm curious between strains.  OP, was your first flush smaller than the second? Size or quantity?




My first flushes seemed to be smaller but that’s because it was my first grow and I was learning how to dial in my fruiting conditions. Once I got things down things started to flow better and my flushes seemed to have gotten bigger and better. I kinda mixed them all together though so I’m not sure now what flush we consumed.




Here’s some pics from my first B+ flushes

And a second flush picture. Didn’t get many pics of my second/third flushes.


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: MadHatter333]
    #24899757 - 01/09/18 12:15 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I'm sorry, I forgot to add that part. Yes, my second flushes get very large. It's my first flush that always have tons of smaller ones. I haven't noticed any potency issues between flushes. I'm curious between strains.  OP, was your first flush smaller than the second? Size or quantity?




My first flushes seemed to be smaller but that’s because it was my first grow and I was learning how to dial in my fruiting conditions. Once I got things down things started to flow better and my flushes seemed to have gotten bigger and better. I kinda mixed them all together though so I’m not sure now what flush we consumed.




Here’s some pics from my first B+ flushes

And a second flush picture. Didn’t get many pics of my second/third flushes.
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I must be doing something wrong. Birthing early or over/underwatering. I just harvested my 4th cake, first grow. All the first flush are very small 1/4cm thick stem ranching from 3-8cm in length, 1-2cm cap 2.5ish if I let drop spores. Second flush are thicker, longer, but less quantity. It looks like our weight would be similar but I've got triple or quadruple the number of mushies.

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: RockyB]
    #24899785 - 01/09/18 12:59 AM (7 years, 9 days ago)

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I appolgize for the brief hijack, but Bodhi’s “Holy Handjob” gif is cracking my shit up :laugh2:



I love bod's input but not the gif... To each their own.... The greatest thing about life.




Eh...I guess different strokes for different folks :laugh2:




Hahahaha pun intended?




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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
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I appolgize for the brief hijack, but Bodhi’s “Holy Handjob” gif is cracking my shit up :laugh2:



I love bod's input but not the gif... To each their own.... The greatest thing about life.




Eh...I guess different strokes for different folks :laugh2:




lol when I first saw this bodi fellas avatar come up on a PE grow log I'm thinking holy shit, this fella has got a massive obsession with dicks.

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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: RockyB]
    #24900079 - 01/09/18 06:54 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

To increase your yield I recommend trying ComebackKids bottom watering tek. I’m doing it now and my Transkei’s seem to be taking off pretty good. Still waiting on my Gt’s To sprout.
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    #24900101 - 01/09/18 07:14 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

In my signature the B+ cake was consolidated two weeks longer than the rest. I wanted to see the difference in a longer consolidation period. The three that I let consolidate longer ended up getting bacterial blotch but pushed out a pretty decent flush compared to the ones I didn’t let consolidate long.

That’s a pic of the bacterial contam. I ended up tossing them after the first flush because after the dunk they smelled sour..


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Xerbia]
    #24900102 - 01/09/18 07:15 AM (7 years, 8 days ago)

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lol when I first saw this bodi fellas avatar come up on a PE grow log I'm thinking holy shit, this fella has got a massive obsession with dicks.




I’m of the impression that we could make an entire forum about BOD’s avatar pics. :laugh2:


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Re: B+ Mushrooms Not Potent? [Re: Tormato]
    #24902152 - 01/09/18 11:58 PM (7 years, 8 days ago)

So we blended up some oj with 6g and used the mushrooms that grew from the bacterial Bloch cakes. It seriously put us on a whole mother planet!! Same drying method but dam were these some potent little guys. Still feeling it.. phew


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