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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #24894594 - 01/06/18 04:44 PM (6 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah just like shroom said above, basically he would endorse a coin as having future potential regardless of if it was true or not, and the result was a huge spike in people buying the coin and the price increasing.

In the case of XVG, the coin was then sold once it hit the outrageous price it got pumped to.

Basically he would cause a pump n dump.

XRP went up because people see how valuable it is. Has nothing to do with FUDor McAfee.

At this point, most people in the crypto market have a strong dislike for McAfee and now ignore him.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Stonehenge]
    #24894616 - 01/06/18 04:55 PM (6 years, 23 days ago)

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So he gets paid for his endorsements? It would be ok if he was up front about it but apparently not? Did he lie about things to knock verge? I bought some of it myself and it was doing well last I looked. I never follow his stuff but I've heard many mention his name as someone who was a mover and shaker. If he is doing shake downs and endorsing any coin that will pay him, not so good. Didn't he endorse ripple? Is that why it went up?

Well excuuuuuuuse me! (steve martin style) I will never compare someone to anyone else again unless they are pure as the driven snow and not even one woman has said they spoke rudely to her.




https://imgur.com/gallery/cGAOf

The conversation he had with people from verge, the person who originally posted the conversation and is friends with both mcafee and the verge developers has deleted it saying it didn't feel right posting it because despite what he was doing by slamming verge on twitter they were still cool and mcafee treated him like family inside his own home. Then the guy who posted it got hacked and had everything on his twitter deleted because people thought he was part of it with McAfee :lol:. McAfee claims it's just a screen shot yet deleted his instagram where all the proof was that he claimed verge could easily reach 15$ within sixth months (which I've saw myself before it got deleted), the same instagram he claims he never had even though he tweeted it as his official instagram and claimed that he meant 15 cents, even though verge was already above 15 cents when he claims he meant that instead of 15 dollars. And a day after those screenshots were posted he ironically started promoting sether even though he claims they're just made up screen shots.

He also said he finds it unbelievable it went over 2 cents, even after an interview you can watch online when it was already over 2 cents and claimed he could see it easily quadrupling in no time at all. He's basically a giant fraud who is honestly still smart and gets payed to promote coins because he knows he has a following he can exploit that will gobble up anything he says and consider it gospel. Now who knows wtf mcafee is thinking, whenever he gets enough backlash he just claims he was hacked on every account. As far as him endorsing ripple I honestly don't know, never followed the guy myself, only know as much as I do about him thanks to the verge subreddit and what I saw on twitter/instagram after investigating it myself lol


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Enkidu]
    #24894628 - 01/06/18 05:01 PM (6 years, 23 days ago)

The pump was all Mcafee but the coin itself is the best privacy coin on the market. Im expecting another surge to 2500 once its finished consolidating, and It could easily beat out XMR's by the time summer rolls around.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #24894696 - 01/06/18 05:31 PM (6 years, 23 days ago)

Haven't looked into it too much but from what I gathered Monero would still definitely be the superior privacy coin but Verge will (or maybe alrady does) offers the option of either being public or private which is (AFAIK) a new concept.

It's unlikely to be adopted by DNM or anything like monero is though which is why Monero is so high to begin with, I doubt they'd take the risk of accepting something that could fuck people over because someone forgot to switch from the public ledger to the private ledger, either way verge is a very promising crypto with all things considered and I agree has more potential then monero solely because it gives the option.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #24894771 - 01/06/18 06:07 PM (6 years, 23 days ago)

I dunno, I look at coins I hear about and if I get good vibes off it I buy. Maybe I should hang out on reddit or wherever the cool crypto people are but I have no time for it. I waste too much on this site to start hanging out elsewhere. Its amazing I'm ahead of the game considering how little research I do but it goes to show anyone can do the same thing as well.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
    #24894817 - 01/06/18 06:31 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Verge was the only one I've used reddit for because I took 25000 gamble on it and since it was so active I wanted to make sure I stayed on top of any news that was going into it, and I'm subsribed to stratis subreddit but that's literally dead for the most part at all times. The only research I do is using the websites of the cryptos themselves and using my gut feeling, I'm amazed and extremely lucky to of made as much as I have so far.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #24894834 - 01/06/18 06:42 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Good for you, your picks were obviously the right ones or your strategy was strong. It goes to show the crypto sector is a gold mine right now. Do you let them run or do you grab profits off the ones that go up and keep the losers?

Likely cryptos will blow up soon. The ups and downs we've seen so far will be repeated over and over. Opportunities abound. When people talk about the easy money they made then others want to get in too. We are still at the ground floor, even with btc which will rise and shine like never before. Cheap alts may provide bigger percentages if they are solid

We already have the segwit wallet, soon as the lightning network is set up btc will go as fast as any coin out there. Then watch the price go to the moon.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 1
    #24894866 - 01/06/18 06:53 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Congrats man, u made the right risky decision :solidnod:


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Stonehenge]
    #24895001 - 01/06/18 07:39 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

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Good for you, your picks were obviously the right ones or your strategy was strong. It goes to show the crypto sector is a gold mine right now. Do you let them run or do you grab profits off the ones that go up and keep the losers?

Likely cryptos will blow up soon. The ups and downs we've seen so far will be repeated over and over. Opportunities abound. When people talk about the easy money they made then others want to get in too. We are still at the ground floor, even with btc which will rise and shine like never before. Cheap alts may provide bigger percentages if they are solid

We already have the segwit wallet, soon as the lightning network is set up btc will go as fast as any coin out there. Then watch the price go to the moon.




I usually trade a fraction of the amount of whatever crypto I'm holding if it increases enough (besides bitcoin, I just keep holding that), I'll usually only hold on when it drops if I see future potential in it but will also trade if I see the potential for a much quicker return on another crypto and then trade right back into the one I had whenever the return comes. I started off with half a bitcoin when it cost around 7500 for a full one, 5 ethereum when they were lower 300's, and 6 litecoin when they were around 63 or so. Now own 1 full bitcoin, 8 ethereum, and 1190 stratis solely from trading in and out. Like if Startis hits $30, I'll trade out 190 of them and put it into something else I see that's promising while holding onto the other 1000 of them, if it manages to hit $50 I'll trade out another 2-3 hundred of them into something else (probably ethereum or bitcoin for longterm holding)

Unless I see a VERY easy and quick return I'll only put into crypto that I actually think are reputable and have potential. That's the only reason I took over half of everything I have in crypto and put it into Verge before NYE when the Wraith launch was expected and the hype was high, and luckily traded out 20 minutes before New years right before it immediately took a sharp dive from somewhere above 20 cents to around 12-14 cents when I originally took the gamble somewhere around 14 cents, with the crash being from them not meeting the deadline. While I'm gauranteed to lose out at some point by doing this, I'll also trade out of anything rising extremely dramatically right before or soon before I think it'll correct into something that's relatively stable at the time so I can buy more than what I had when it drops, been lucky so far but it's pretty much a 100% chance I'll fuck up at some point by doing that.

Just in case it seems like I might be I should say I'm truly not bragging in the slightest, this market is volatile as hell and I've been unbelievably lucky and wouldn't of imagined getting so much of a return within only a few months, put somewhere around 7-8k and was already able to take that back out and can now just play with the profits from it but that could easily change tomorrow. I honestly can't even take credit for it since no matter how you look at it, it's just been lucky guesswork on my part. I mean I have fucked up too, owned 1200 ripple and traded them before the boom, 2500 XLM before the boom, 2500 cardano before they boomed, fortunately I still made out on the things I traded them but would of made more had I held onto them lol.

My gameplan from now on is to cash out a 1/3rd whenever I double whatever I own, that way I can keep making more profit and also increase the amount of crypto I'm playing around with. Hopefully my luck keeps up long enough to do that :lol:


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #24895123 - 01/06/18 08:28 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Your sense of market timing seems good. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I think selling the weak ones and putting it into the winners is better than selling part of a winner to go to another coin. But if you managed to pull it off then great. I will listen more closely to your picks in the future.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Asante] * 1
    #24895268 - 01/06/18 09:29 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

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Quote:

Stonehenge said:

He is the john mcafee of the shroomery





After I read that leaked McAfee chat I bloody well take offense at that Sir :wink:

I will never buy a McAfee product again.


McAfee has many followers so what he chooses to advertize, pumps. Geokills has a keen spidey sense and does good research to pick winners.
One's Ego, the other's Skill.

McAfee CAUSES the pumps by the sheer volume of trades that follow his recommendations and people do it because they KNOW it will pump.
Thats not being a guru or having predictive power of any sort.

He blackmails crypto currencies into giving him millions for either making or breaking them with his endorsement or damnation.




I hope everyone, including geo, understands it was meant as a compliment. Say what you like about McAfee but he is no fool and many respect his opinion. I haven't seen conclusive evidence of the claims you've made but I'm open to it. And he hasn't had anything to do with McAfee antivirus for 20 years as far as I'm aware.

Also if anyone is interested, David Hay the crypto YouTuber gives away 0.1eth to anyone commenting in his latest videos with a comment and Eth address. There is a random selection when he makes his newest video. Might not seem like much but 0.1 Eth means more and more these days


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tipote] * 4
    #24895417 - 01/06/18 10:52 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

It's awesome waking up from a nap to see you made $150 while asleep in your bed.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tipote]
    #24895463 - 01/06/18 11:18 PM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Mcafee may be intelligent but he definitely isn't smart with this whole extortion of verge and threats of killing their coin ON THE INTERNET using chat protocols.  A smart man would have had that conversation over the phone or in person, not a damn chat/SMS/msg client where it could be easily screenshotted and posted.  Then he started his "I was hacked" bullshit which I'm not even sure I believe.  The dude is a bit of a loon and with this whole extortion thing coming out its obvious that he never really had any 'skill' in picking winners, he was just hyping them and people were making his predictions true because they think he was smart.

I'm glad verge hasn't tanked and I'm really glad those screenshots came out.  One more reminder to be careful who you listed to for advice/info and to always check things out yourself and ask around for multiple opinions.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: mndfreeze]
    #24895537 - 01/07/18 12:10 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Again- I'll accept that when I see evidence.

Why wouldn't such an influential guy be a target of hacks? There are lots of imposter accounts for obvious reasons


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: PumpJackTeX]
    #24895543 - 01/07/18 12:13 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

I grabbed some Nebl the other day @ 7.86 and last i checked its up like 125%  @ $17.66

Bought Airswap today after some research.  I already pretty much have or at one time had all the coins Geo posted.  EOS concerns me though, why exclude the US?  From what Ive read it was a last minute decision on their parts to do so.  Those of you with EOS, have you registered your coins or whatever the hell youre supposed to do??

Ive done incredibly well in the past 30 days for a super n00b.  Ive learned and earned quite a bit.  The initial $1200 I deposited to coinbase has gone a long fucking way!  Wish I put more into bat coin last month!!


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Mush 4 Brains] * 1
    #24895598 - 01/07/18 01:28 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Picked up some Digibyte, anticipating an uptick.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Asante] * 1
    #24895606 - 01/07/18 01:38 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

Im gonna get rich as fuck off of bottlecaps and pickle ricks.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tipote]
    #24895615 - 01/07/18 01:54 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

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Again- I'll accept that when I see evidence.

Why wouldn't such an influential guy be a target of hacks? There are lots of imposter accounts for obvious reasons




The screenshots were posted?  how is that not evidence?  He also back pedaled multiple times on the verge price, and what he 'claimed' even though its all there in internet record history for all to see.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: mndfreeze]
    #24896053 - 01/07/18 09:53 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

A few questions for you all:

Do insider trading laws apply to crypto?
Any easy way to buy and sell without using coinbase (with low fees)?
How much of this crypto boom do you all think is attributable/reliant to the boom of the economy (USA's, although I assume most other economy's are doing better too) in general?



I also want to add, if anyone cares, that I'm a bit disillusioned with almost all of the crypto scene these days.  Compare bitcoin's whitepaper with what it's become.  If not already inevitable, I hope cryptos don't go the same way that the internet has.  Where instead of upending the centralization of wealth and influence, it concentrated it even more (facebook/apple/goog/amazon)


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: tito123] * 1
    #24896069 - 01/07/18 10:02 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

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Where instead of upending the centralization of wealth and influence, it concentrated it even more





2 billion people and counting now share a medium where they can find the answers to most questions in human history, where they can get a cutting edge education of their choosing for the cost of their bandwidth and can find likeminded people interested in thinking, working and funding along.
And now this hive mind has its own kinds of money, independent of the powers that be.

The power that the Internet is giving to the people is rising at hairraising velocity and it is literally unfathomable what the shortterm consequiences will be because the Internet is moving the frontier of human capability and organisation level forward every single day.


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