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KKVguitarist
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Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag?
#24892777 - 01/05/18 08:13 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Ok so this has been posted many times before but i finally gave in a few months ago and did it. Bought a tabletop airpurifier for $10 from a thrift store, bought the highest rated hepa grade filter that would fit it for about $30, cleaned the airpurifier with 70% iso very very well, put in hepa filter, i use new unopened clear plastic trash bags, open the top, tape it around the output of the air purifier sonits sealed, make sure ionizer is OFF turn purifier on high untill bag fills, turn off, slit 2 holes for arms and 1 small slit to see clearly (even though bag is clear) i place this setup on a shelf in a closet thats about shoulder height, turn on purifier on high again, spray inside of bag with 70%iso, i turn it on let it i flate turn it off, spray spray spray, turn it on once its almost out of air, repeat a few times. Leave running on HIGH. I put on elbow length dishwashing gloves, wash them with antibacterial soap and hot water, then everything that is going into the bag i spray with iso, and wipe with iso soaked paper towel then put in through armhole. After everythings in i kinda like hit/press the bag a few times to kinda cause temporary backpressure into the purifier so any particles that are maybe barely hanging on get knocked off and blow out. I let it run for 15 minutes. Before i begin work i turn it to low, spray 70%iso on both hands reach in and get to work, the air blows from the right side so i MINUTELY follow flowhood rules, nothing comes between the flow and what im working with, but i know airflows are crazy in there anyways. When i get done i spray the entire unit with iso, put it into a new bag with the cord hanging out and wrap tape around the end of the bag with the cord coming out. Just to stop dust from setteling on it.
This works for me. Used at least twice a week for the last 3 months, havent changed the filter once. And havent had a single contam. I opened lc jars and dropped in live mush sections, ive poured agar plates and allowed to cool and harden, and seriously, not a single contam. This thing rocks socks.
I hope this inspires someone to give it a shot, people will bash and explain why it doesnt work, but it does. And flawlessly. Hope it helps!!
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#24892788 - 01/05/18 08:17 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Probably because buying 110 gal clear tote and putting some arms holes in it, then spraying with water and being good to go is way easier than all that
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KKVguitarist
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: Bird_Guts]
#24892821 - 01/05/18 08:35 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Idk, i worked with a still air box for a long time, having to make sure theres no aircurrents, turning off ac or heater, which can make it hot/cold when you have to wait 30mins for the air to settle, any movement blows air i to the box, i have done agar in a still air, but i have gotten contams a few times, idk, whatever works for people, i just want anyone new to know that this does work very well for some, its like having a flowhood for $50. I just wish i saw more people praising it like i do. Its been a miracle for my myco work.
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#24892827 - 01/05/18 08:38 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Word. If it works ,it works.
--BG--
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: Bird_Guts]
#24892855 - 01/05/18 08:54 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Wait 30m why... I wait 30 seconds. Probably less.
Shumvbox worked well people would be using it lol
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24892868 - 01/05/18 09:02 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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What the fuck is this smuzbox/bag?? I can't find any info on it anywhere. What does it even fucking look like? Haha I'm getting aggravated. Sounds like a cheap and effective flowhood. I'm interested!! Send me a link or something before I have an aneurysm.
-------------------- Shroomery show me the way!!!
Edited by Bizziness (01/05/18 09:02 PM)
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: Bizziness]
#24892874 - 01/05/18 09:04 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Its a household hepa attached to a trash bag. You cant sterilize your gloves or the outside of jars or petri dishes you bring in so the filtered air just blows shit all over
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24892877 - 01/05/18 09:04 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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KKVguitarist said: Idk, i worked with a still air box for a long time, having to make sure theres no aircurrents, turning off ac or heater, which can make it hot/cold when you have to wait 30mins for the air to settle, any movement blows air i to the box, i have done agar in a still air, but i have gotten contams a few times, idk, whatever works for people, i just want anyone new to know that this does work very well for some, its like having a flowhood for $50. I just wish i saw more people praising it like i do. Its been a miracle for my myco work.
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bodhisatta said: Wait 30m why... I wait 30 seconds. Probably less.
Shumvbox worked well people would be using it lol
Haha typed the same thing didn'thit continue lol
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#24892890 - 01/05/18 09:10 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Because my sab works like a mothafuckin charm, even in a nasty ass, drafty ass garage
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KKVguitarist
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: cronicr]
#24892904 - 01/05/18 09:14 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Heres a pic, and i know ppl will bash it and not try it, but it really does work amazingly, you have to invest in the most expensive filter for it tho, its in a purple box and says true hepa. When using a still airbox i always turned off ac for 30mins to allow the air and all floating contaminates to settle.
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist] 2
#24892909 - 01/05/18 09:16 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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KKVguitarist said: Heres a pic,
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KKVguitarist
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#24892911 - 01/05/18 09:17 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Sorry heres the pics They are sideways btw
Edited by KKVguitarist (01/05/18 09:18 PM)
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#24892914 - 01/05/18 09:19 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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right on...if it works for ya all the power to ya
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#24892918 - 01/05/18 09:21 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
KKVguitarist said: Sorry heres the pics They are sideways btw

Yoooooo wtf!!
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KKVguitarist
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: cronicr]
#24892940 - 01/05/18 09:30 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Lol bullshit calling! Ruuuuthless lol. Im able to use it without ac running and everything. And with agar, like a flowhood, it cools them pretty quickly so you can top without condensation. I have been taking a piece of live mushroom flesh, pc agar in a small glass syrup bottle, allow it to cool but not solidified yet and pour over live tissue in petri dish to kill any possible bacteria and mycelium grows up through the agar, any bacteria that does survive only grows horizontally so its trapped under. You scrape a little off the top and you havenperfectly clean mycelium to place either into lc or on another dish to grow out. 《《Bit of a subject change lol.
But the shmuvbag works. Its hard to find online, barely any posts about it but for all that are new to the hobby TRY IT! and for those that bash it, also TRY IT!
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist] 1
#24892948 - 01/05/18 09:34 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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You should mass produce and patent them, I bet you get rich, noobs love this type of stuff.
If you can somehow incorporate a fish pump in there then you're golden with the sales
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: Bird_Guts]
#24892949 - 01/05/18 09:35 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Not something he created you can already order them it is an oldschool method
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24892952 - 01/05/18 09:36 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Its a household hepa attached to a trash bag. You cant sterilize your gloves or the outside of jars or petri dishes you bring in so the filtered air just blows shit all over 
This is what would make sense, i know, thats why i have been growing for almost 5 years and never tried it. But when i finally did it blew my mind. Like i said i spray everything with 70%iso and wipe down with iso soaked paper towel, then once everythings in i let it run on high for 15 minutes, only cut 2 armholes and 1 eye hole (all slits actually) so all air only blows out towards you, then turn it on low, so the high air current has time to blow out as much as possible then the lower aircurrent has less of a chance of stirring up anything new.and i always wash my gloves with soap and water first, then spray with iso everytime they come out and go in. And spray iso all over the inside of the bag before and after placing everything in.
Idk like i said, aloooot of ppl bash, and the science of it says no, but it works! Ok im dead on the subject. Ill answer any questions tho if anyone wants to know how to use like ido
Edited by KKVguitarist (01/05/18 09:40 PM)
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KKVguitarist
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#24892954 - 01/05/18 09:38 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Yes NOT MY CREATION, im just trying to bring it back up so people like you bord guts that havent heard of it before may benefit from it
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Bird_Guts
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Re: Why is no one using the smuzbox/bag? [Re: KKVguitarist]
#24892963 - 01/05/18 09:41 PM (7 years, 12 days ago) |
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Oh shit I thought you were one of the founders of this box.
Make em anyway and call it something else!
--BG--
Edit: can you post a video of you working in this plz?
Edited by Bird_Guts (01/05/18 09:41 PM)
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