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District
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How to measure Spawn ratio?
#24887633 - 01/03/18 03:06 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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I don't believe i've seen the answer to this. How exactly does measuring spawn ratios work? I have a jar of colonized grain and some coir. Do I just measure out and stuff another jar with coir, press it down and call it 1:1? Or is just eyeballing?
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: District]
#24887639 - 01/03/18 03:10 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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why do u only have 1 jar of spawn u can use half a brick and do a lil mono
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: tripdawg420]
#24887643 - 01/03/18 03:14 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: why do u only have 1 jar of spawn u can use half a brick and do a lil mono 
because thats all I have atm. Anyone else?
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: District]
#24887662 - 01/03/18 03:20 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Its not an exact science. Basically 1:1 would be your jar of spawn with a quart of substrate.
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24887665 - 01/03/18 03:22 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Just_A_Noob said: Its not an exact science. Basically 1:1 would be your jar of spawn with a quart of substrate.
Does that mean stuffing your substrate in the quart jar? Or measuring it other ways before mixing.
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: District]
#24887670 - 01/03/18 03:23 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Prep the sub first. Yeah sure quart jar. I use a quart measuring cup
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hamloaf
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: District]
#24887673 - 01/03/18 03:25 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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First number in the equation represents amount spawn. Second number; amount of bulk substrate 1:2 spawn to bulk substrate = 1 part by volume or weight of spawn : 2 parts by volume or weight of bulk substrate. Generally spawn to bulk ratios are measured in quarts.
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verum subsequentis
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: District]
#24887674 - 01/03/18 03:26 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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you can measure it any way you want. You a definitely over thinking it. If it looks anywhere close to the same, you've achieved 1 to 1. with only 1 quart of grain I'd do a shoebox with 3 quarts of sub.
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: hamloaf]
#24887687 - 01/03/18 03:32 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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hamloaf said: First number in the equation represents amount spawn. Second number; amount of bulk substrate 1:2 spawn to bulk substrate = 1 part by volume or weight of spawn : 2 parts by volume or weight of bulk substrate. Generally spawn to bulk ratios are measured in quarts.
Does it matter that spawn would be denser than (in this case) coir? If by measuring by volume.
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: District]
#24887701 - 01/03/18 03:39 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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No. It's honestly really simple. Don't trip man. Some things are worth tripping on, like sterile procedure. this is not one of them.
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i use a 1liter tupperware and just scoop the shit out and eyeball it. 1 scoop per jar of spawn. easy shit man
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: hamloaf]
#24887853 - 01/03/18 04:54 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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hamloaf said: Generally spawn to bulk ratios are measured in quarts.
Not to be a dick, but ratios inherently don't have a unit of measure. I mean, if you're making a monotub with a 1:2 ratio you wouldn't use three quarts total in a 60qt tub, it'd be more like 3 quarts spawn to 6 quarts of substrate, am I right?
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: SadTurkey] 1
#24887864 - 01/03/18 05:00 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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it's interesting to say, "not to be a dick" while being a dick. Ham was just giving the guy a general overview of spawn to sub ratio and said that people "generally" measure it out in quarts.
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It's generally measured in quarts because most spawn here is produced in quarts. The ratio doesn't change with a bigger or smaller tub, it's just scaled up or down depending on the size of your tub. A 1:2, 3:6 1\2:1 doesn't matter it all reduces to a 1:2. As to the mono question yes 3qt spawn 6qt sub would be fine for that tub size
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verum subsequentis said: it's interesting to say, "not to be a dick" while being a dick. Ham was just giving the guy a general overview of spawn to sub ratio and said that people "generally" measure it out in quarts.
Mmmkay. I've never seen anyone call a 1:2 ratio a 3:6 ratio, that's confusing as hell. If you mix a half quart of spawn with a half quart of substrate, would that be 0.5:0.5? Ratio is ratio, the amount of quarts to use depends on the container and the amount of spawn.
And how about we dial it back on the name-calling?
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: SadTurkey] 1
#24887989 - 01/03/18 05:47 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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.5:.5 would still be one to one and 3:6 is just usually reduced to a 1:2. All that really matters in this application is knowing that spawn/sub ratios here are shown however many parts spawn: however many parts sub. I think people keep it simple with the 1:1 1:2 1:3 and so on so then it can get scaled to whatever you need seeing not everyone uses a standardized tub size.
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SadTurkey
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Exactly my point, I was replying to Verum.
By the way, the "not to be a dick" part was because hamloafs obviously more experienced than me and probably knows how ratios work. I just wanted to clarify so OP doesn't throw two quarts of substrate with one quart of spawn in a big monotub and call it a day.
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: SadTurkey]
#24888019 - 01/03/18 05:58 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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If all else fails and you want to get a feel for your spawn:sub ratio in a tub, fill it with quarts of water according to your intended ratio.
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Re: How to measure Spawn ratio? [Re: SadTurkey]
#24888094 - 01/03/18 06:27 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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SadTurkey said:
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verum subsequentis said: it's interesting to say, "not to be a dick" while being a dick. Ham was just giving the guy a general overview of spawn to sub ratio and said that people "generally" measure it out in quarts.
Mmmkay. I've never seen anyone call a 1:2 ratio a 3:6 ratio, that's confusing as hell. If you mix a half quart of spawn with a half quart of substrate, would that be 0.5:0.5? Ratio is ratio, the amount of quarts to use depends on the container and the amount of spawn.
And how about we dial it back on the name-calling?
It's all relative..... It's simple, 1 part:1 part, 1 part:2 parts, 1 part:3 parts.... What you are using to "measure it out" is irrelevant. What matters is the total VOLUMES of amounts of spawn and substrate, ratios are relative, and they can be adjusted. It's all kind of approximate most of the time anyway, so it doesn't matter what your "measuring vessel" is.... Ask yourself " Am I adding the same amount of grain spawn as I am substrate?(1:1 ratio) Or twice as much spawn to sub? (1:2 ratio), or maybe three times as much spawn as sub (1:3 ratio)....
I don't know how else to try and explain it.... The amounts don't need to be exact perfect "ratios", as long as they are relatively approximate.
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I assume you're replying to Verum? Because you're saying the same thing I'm saying Threads.
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