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BoomingFreddy
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Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub
#24885155 - 01/02/18 02:24 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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This have been in fruiting for almost 3 weeks and look like this. Needing help one what I should do better or what I should do different. All of them have beads of moisture and when they don't I mist them lightly and let I fall from above so not directly. Also all the tubs were only side pinning and bottom pinning so you can see the 3 tubs I had flipped over the substrate to let them grow bigger which doesn't seem to have done anything because the one I didn't flip the side pins grew huge and it only has like 10 growing on the top but the caps are huge but only about 1 inch tall. I flipped them about a week ago btw.




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kingkc
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885211 - 01/02/18 02:54 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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You have a three weeks into this , you should have a forest by two weeks from the first sign of pinheads. What sort of substrate are you using? How deep ? What sort of spawn do you use?
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: kingkc]
#24885221 - 01/02/18 02:59 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Clean spawn is all this guy needs.
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BoomingFreddy
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: kingkc]
#24885222 - 01/02/18 03:00 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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kingkc said: You have a three weeks into this , you should have a forest by two weeks from the first sign of pinheads. What sort of substrate are you using? How deep ? What sort of spawn do you use?
That's what I thought as well they colonized in 5 days. It's only coir spawned with 4 quarts water held at over 165 for at least 4 hours. Once cooled I mixed in with 3 quarts of impressively colonized wbs jars. And it's about 3 inches deep at least.
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: bodhisatta]
#24885227 - 01/02/18 03:02 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Clean spawn is all this guy needs.
It was definitely clean spawn. Let sit after they colonized in a week I let sit for 2 weeks and they smelt like nothing but yummy mushrooms
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885228 - 01/02/18 03:02 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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They're growing around the uncolonized and contaminated areas. 5 day colonization was the mold. Coir doesn't need pasteurisation. It can be sterilized. Pasteurize for 1-2 hours. 4 is detrimental.
Your spawn wasn't 100% clean. And until you believe and fix that this will be a regular issue. sight is way more reliable than smell. Post your spawn next time before using it
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24885238 - 01/02/18 03:09 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: They're growing around the uncolonized and contaminated areas. 5 day colonization was the mold. Coir doesn't need pasteurisation. It can be sterilized. Pasteurize for 1-2 hours. 4 is detrimental.
Your spawn wasn't 100% clean. And until you believe and fix that this will be a regular issue. sight is way more reliable than smell. Post your spawn next time before using it
So that was all the bottom sides of the tubs since I flipped over since they're was no pins on the tops for over a week only side and bottom pins figured it was because I couldn't get good surace moisture. But all my jars had great smell no spots. I inc in a still air box and then after those I did g2g and all my g2g grew amazingy I have more pictures of the tops of the subs before I flipped them. Also it was that hot for that long not because I tried to I just pored boiling water in and let it sit tell cooled.
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885243 - 01/02/18 03:10 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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I'll post a couple pictures of the spawn used.
Edit pictures are on my broken iPhone. But I had one pictures uploaded on my other post check it out it has crazy growth. I posted pictures of all the jars on reddit and then my tubs here and everyone saI'd everything looked good. I think since I didn't wait the 10 days and fruited after day 5 may be my issue also noted my bottom wasn't fully colonized or sides when I fruited I took off the duct tape and saw that aswell
Edited by BoomingFreddy (01/02/18 03:14 PM)
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885253 - 01/02/18 03:14 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Trust in bod man it will go a long way he knows what he's talking about. 5 days to colonize is just way to fast.. it's gotta be mold that got in there. People with clean spawn have shown pins to harvesting forest in less then 10 days..
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24885264 - 01/02/18 03:19 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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BoomingFreddy
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885311 - 01/02/18 03:40 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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When I get home I can take pictures of the 12 more jars I gave that I g2g from the same set of jars used to spawn this. They all colonized I a normal g2g time frame with nice white colonization
Edit: I even do an eXtra shake break up to make sure it grows back nice and white
Edited by BoomingFreddy (01/02/18 03:42 PM)
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885333 - 01/02/18 03:50 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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BoomingFreddy said: I'll post a couple pictures of the spawn used.
Edit pictures are on my broken iPhone. But I had one pictures uploaded on my other post check it out it has crazy growth. I posted pictures of all the jars on reddit and then my tubs here and everyone saI'd everything looked good. I think since I didn't wait the 10 days and fruited after day 5 may be my issue also noted my bottom wasn't fully colonized or sides when I fruited I took off the duct tape and saw that aswell
I'm no pro, but you're litterally disregarding experienced people who are kindly giving their opinion (bod has never given me an incorrect answer). If you have a contamination then the myc ran as far as it could around what it could. It will continue to colonize in fruiting conditions if you started too early unless you have contamination.
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: RockyB]
#24885349 - 01/02/18 03:56 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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BoomingFreddy said: I'll post a couple pictures of the spawn used.
Edit pictures are on my broken iPhone. But I had one pictures uploaded on my other post check it out it has crazy growth. I posted pictures of all the jars on reddit and then my tubs here and everyone saI'd everything looked good. I think since I didn't wait the 10 days and fruited after day 5 may be my issue also noted my bottom wasn't fully colonized or sides when I fruited I took off the duct tape and saw that aswell
I'm no pro, but you're litterally disregarding experienced people who are kindly giving their opinion (bod has never given me an incorrect answer). If you have a contamination then the myc ran as far as it could around what it could. It will continue to colonize in fruiting conditions if you started too early unless you have contamination.
I'm trying not to and I'm sorry if I souND like that. I'm just crazed that if my jars are contaminated because all of them performed awesome with no smell and had a couple people day they were great to go. Also there was huge spots in the middle on the bottome of all of them uncolonized but they did finish or else it would've fallen apart when I flipped or coir would still be showing. It's just hard to think my jars are all comtamed when they look and smell beautiful and I thought I had my sterile tek down.
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885358 - 01/02/18 03:59 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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I got ya. It's hard to fully get communications just through text. It doesn't have to be a contamination in the jar, but it could have been once you exposed it, or in your spray bottle. A bad cough with a lougie you didn't notice.
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: RockyB]
#24885365 - 01/02/18 04:04 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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RockyB said: I got ya. It's hard to fully get communications just through text. It doesn't have to be a contamination in the jar, but it could have been once you exposed it, or in your spray bottle. A bad cough with a lougie you didn't notice.
I've been sick as hell. I'll admit I have a bad cough and haven't washed my hands much and this has been going on for a week probably touched my sub plenty of times also I thought it was more since I thought it was colonized and fruited it way to early. I'm gonna spawn these jars in a few days and I'll make sure I give them at least 12 days in the tubs before fruiting. I'll also post pictures of my spawn.
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885534 - 01/02/18 05:09 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Here's pictures of 2 different jara that have been sitting for colonized for almost 2 weeks that I g2g from the same set of jars I spawned with.

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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885549 - 01/02/18 05:18 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Those look pretty suspect to me. Awfully thick mycelium even for being consolidated.
Id say they're slightly bacterial and that is why performance was low on the tubs
The middle of this tub is pretty telling
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: bodhisatta]
#24885560 - 01/02/18 05:25 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Those look pretty suspect to me. Awfully thick mycelium even for being consolidated.
Id say they're slightly bacterial and that is why performance was low on the tubs
The middle of this tub is pretty telling

I do agree I also did these g2g in open air since my sab is tiny. I think there might be some bacteria in the jars and when I exsposed the uncolonized sub it just took over. What should be my next approach would you say? I have 12 nicely colonized jars of what I showed you and I have 6 more syringes but have no other Jars going atm. I was planning on cloning my biggest fruit and getting into agar. But I'd love some next steps I should take from an expert like you self. Also plan on buying the tubs you use in the future I hate polly.
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: BoomingFreddy]
#24885631 - 01/02/18 05:53 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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How many quart jars did you use jw
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Re: Small fruits no viels when caps opening -monotub [Re: Callmedaddy]
#24885642 - 01/02/18 06:02 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Callmedaddy said: How many quart jars did you use jw
I'll answer this multiple ways. I used 2 jars to g2g into 14 so I have 2 master and 12 left to spawn and I use 3 quarts for every brick of coir
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