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Will this brand of agar work?
    #24885102 - 01/02/18 02:00 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Hi everyone, I'm gonna be trying agar out for the first time, and I am only able to find one brand near by, not the usual telephone brand I see people use.

Does anyone have experience and/or know if this will work?



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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24885127 - 01/02/18 02:08 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

malt agar works best in opinion.

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24885132 - 01/02/18 02:11 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

That's great agar, but pricey.

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24885140 - 01/02/18 02:15 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Sweet I'll buy this bag then.

Do you guys have any recommendations on where to find potatoe flakes. I'm at whole foods right now but don't see them.


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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24885153 - 01/02/18 02:23 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Boxed potato isle?  Usually with rice n shit.

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: mushboy]
    #24885158 - 01/02/18 02:26 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Would this work?



It says the ingredients are just dehydrated potatoes


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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24885176 - 01/02/18 02:36 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

The other 2 ingredients are asian moss used as thickener. You might want to stear clear of that brand and go for the brick type used in pasty's no pour tech or telephone brand 100% agar-agar.


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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: JHOVA]
    #24885263 - 01/02/18 03:19 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Damn alright, would those other Ingredients  just make it a different consistenty or would the mycelium not even be able to colonize it?


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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24885286 - 01/02/18 03:29 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Dude, that's the agar I use.  Those other ingredients are simply other algae that agar is extracted from.  IMHO, Telephone brands sucks...I don't like the consistency.  Here are my results with the sea flakes brand:

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24885459 - 01/02/18 04:41 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Sweet thanks for the reply, I'll stick with this brand for sure.

Those are some awesome pics. I actually just spawned some ATL #7 to some cvg 2 days ago and it's already starting to Colonize :smile:.

I put a pseudo casing layer on in the beginning, would you reccomended casing it again after full colonization?


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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24885855 - 01/02/18 07:32 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Once colonized, I’d get a pasteurized peat based casing on it for sure.  I’ve been using jiffy and sand with garden lime for tamps with good success.  RR says not to use garden lime (dolomitic) as the magnesium is too high, but I’ve also seen it stated that that’s only relevant if growing agaricus...either way, I picked up some crushed oyster shells to use instead and will compare.  Hope to see some fruit popping off that atl7!

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24885962 - 01/02/18 08:12 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Awesome agar montage!  Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24885972 - 01/02/18 08:17 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

You like that agar better than 100% agar powder?


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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: JHOVA]
    #24885982 - 01/02/18 08:23 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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You like that agar better than 100% agar powder?




i mean his plates speak for his agar lol


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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: JHOVA]
    #24886051 - 01/02/18 08:54 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

JHOVA said:
You like that agar better than 100% agar powder?




I like this brand of agar.  I’m still hunting online for a cheaper brand I like as well.  I did buy several packs of telephone brand and didn’t like the consistency. The one good thing about it though, is it can be used at 1.25%, so it goes a bit further. I don’t think there’s a difference really in terms of flakes v powder...I would think both would be easier than a bar, however.

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24887095 - 01/03/18 10:16 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

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Mycolorado said:
Quote:

JHOVA said:
You like that agar better than 100% agar powder?




I like this brand of agar.  I’m still hunting online for a cheaper brand I like as well.  I did buy several packs of telephone brand and didn’t like the consistency. The one good thing about it though, is it can be used at 1.25%, so it goes a bit further. I don’t think there’s a difference really in terms of flakes v powder...I would think both would be easier than a bar, however.




Alright  sweet that's what Ill do, thanks for your help.

If I have a 1 inch substrate depth how much of the sand/jiffy do you think I should use? And do I let the pseudo casing layer completely colonize as well?


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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24887129 - 01/03/18 10:32 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Yeah, let the pseudo-casing colonize and use 1/4 inch of jiffy/sand or other peat-based casing.

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24887138 - 01/03/18 10:36 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Sweet, appreciate the help.

I got a shoebox with a pretty small height for this, so I'm worried about their being enough room for them to grow.

After I case it do you think it would be ok to flip another tub ontop and dub tub it?



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Edited by flyhighfunguy (01/03/18 10:37 AM)

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #24887141 - 01/03/18 10:37 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Yep, dub tubs work great for mex.

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Re: Will this brand of agar work? [Re: Mycolorado]
    #24887149 - 01/03/18 10:41 AM (7 years, 14 days ago)

Awesome, one last question Lol.

Should i give it a misting after I case it or should I just put the dub tub on and wait? And do you have any reccomended teks on how to prepare the jiffy/sand?


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Edited by flyhighfunguy (01/03/18 10:45 AM)

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