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OfflineLuminous7


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SUB moisture indications.
    #24883925 - 01/01/18 08:52 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Im just wondering what kind of indicators can help in determining over saturated substrate or to dry substrate that would result in poor fruiting?

if you pinch a chunk of substrate,  and squeeze to check the water.

If it squeezed out at "felid capacity" with quite a bit of moisture toward the end of a flush i can guess that would be to much water?


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884230 - 01/02/18 12:42 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884250 - 01/02/18 01:03 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

The end of the flush? Wouldn't you check prior to mixing spawn with your substrate?

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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: RockyB]
    #24884284 - 01/02/18 01:40 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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The end of the flush? Wouldn't you check prior to mixing spawn with your substrate?




Well yea.

But i feel like there must be a way to determine if its to wet while fruiiting .


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884285 - 01/02/18 01:41 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

seems to much water is stickking around to long. Like its not getting used by mycelium or evaporating quick enough?

Idk . Im kinda stumped on determining if its to wet or to dry at this point as im getting small ass fruits.


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884296 - 01/02/18 01:52 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

if your getting pooling water, your misting to much.


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Ziran]
    #24884326 - 01/02/18 02:24 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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if your getting pooling water, your misting to much.



no pooling. just seems like substrate is over saturated.


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884329 - 01/02/18 02:25 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

dial back your misting a tad, and maybe loosen your poly. Whats your chamber look like boss.


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884330 - 01/02/18 02:25 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

if the substrate seems to wet.

should i skip the dunk for 2nd flush?

Im having a hard time figuring out if sub is to wet or to dry thats casuing small fruits.


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884333 - 01/02/18 02:27 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

small fruits, probably to wet

Hmm a picture would really help man.


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884334 - 01/02/18 02:27 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Poly fill is lose. and top poly is taken out.

Mist like maybe once a day


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Ziran]
    #24884337 - 01/02/18 02:29 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

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small fruits, probably to wet.



thats my guess.

Its the end of the flush like veils are opening . Great pin set but tiny guys.

If i pinch a little substrate and squeeze water drips out. Youd think it would have used most of the water by now .


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884338 - 01/02/18 02:29 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)



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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884342 - 01/02/18 02:30 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

take a pic of the sub with the lid off. that'll give me a better idea of whats going on. could just be genetics


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Ziran]
    #24884479 - 01/02/18 06:24 AM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Yeah we need to see better pics brother man, I'm currently going through the same dilemma as you, I'm at day 5 of fruiting conditions with fuck tons of knots but no pins yet and I keep going back and forth over if my surface conditions are dialed in or not :/

I have my bulk tray in my green house with tons of rh and I mist maybe 2x a day depending if there is a heavy set of water beads or not. I'll add a few pics for examples.

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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Shrooms4life]
    #24884908 - 01/02/18 12:06 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

This is the tub when i woke up this morning. I need to pick the small fruits out of there.

Its hard to see but there is little beads of water on the surface.

Theres pretty much never a time when it dosnt have droplets on the surface.

But still the substrate seems soggy even tho it dosnt look like it.

If i grab a pinch full and squueze it , she drips out like its feild capacity.


Im getting pretty stumped. SHould i still dunk it for round 2?

Im thinking just mist heavily and keep it fruiting



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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884915 - 01/02/18 12:08 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

whats that grey looking thing?


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Ziran]
    #24884923 - 01/02/18 12:13 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

Quote:

Ziran said:
whats that grey looking thing?



humidity gauge


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884931 - 01/02/18 12:16 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

the reason i dont think surface conditions are my issue is because i am able to get quite a nice pin set and always have moisture of beaded water on the surface.

I feel like the whole mass of substrate is just to soaked, i mean it shouldnt squueeze out at feild capacity at the end of a flush right?

Theres no way i wana dunk this thing for flush 2


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Re: SUB moisture indications. [Re: Luminous7]
    #24884934 - 01/02/18 12:17 PM (7 years, 15 days ago)

I feel like its just genetics man, cause your tub looks fine to me :thumbup:

maybe up your fae a bit.

also you don't need that gauge in your chamber. your eyes are your gauge


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