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Skizor1337
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Is this Mono contaminated or not?
#24881915 - 12/31/17 07:26 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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I didn't notice anything yesterday but just thought I would throw this out there.
It looks like a mini pin poking its head out but has a strange yellow color to it.
Also on the right side of the tub we have a patch of white dots that look like perlite to me.
I took these pics........
Is this all good or do I have problems?
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24881977 - 12/31/17 08:09 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Looks good to me. The perlite looking white dots appear to be hyphal knots.
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: TheMilkMan84]
#24882092 - 12/31/17 09:19 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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A little stressed
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Skizor1337
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: cronicr]
#24882404 - 01/01/18 12:16 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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cronicr said: A little stressed
What do you mean?
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24882547 - 01/01/18 04:05 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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The yellowing myc could be dried and dead myc or bacterial or from a hot sub...
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: cronicr]
#24882577 - 01/01/18 04:56 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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All the photos look a little yellow.
The polyfil looks white, so I'm guessing it's not a camera issue.
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The perlite looking white dots appear to be hyphal knots.
I'm not sure I can agree with this, photo quality is poor, and I've had trays which looked just like this and later turned out to be horrible mold.
Fingers crossed for you though...
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: MrRabbit-HMR]
#24882808 - 01/01/18 09:40 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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MrRabbit-HMR said: All the photos look a little yellow.
The polyfil looks white, so I'm guessing it's not a camera issue.
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The perlite looking white dots appear to be hyphal knots.
I'm not sure I can agree with this, photo quality is poor, and I've had trays which looked just like this and later turned out to be horrible mold.
Fingers crossed for you though...
My bad. I’ve never seen anything in a monotub that resembles white balls aside from hyphal knots. I thought the yellowing looked like metabolites. I apologize if I gave bad info, I still have my training wheels on.
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Skizor1337
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: MrRabbit-HMR]
#24882861 - 01/01/18 10:22 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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MrRabbit-HMR said: All the photos look a little yellow.
The polyfil looks white, so I'm guessing it's not a camera issue.
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The perlite looking white dots appear to be hyphal knots.
I'm not sure I can agree with this, photo quality is poor, and I've had trays which looked just like this and later turned out to be horrible mold.
Fingers crossed for you though...
Well if mushrooms grow are they safe to eat?
That's really all I am worried about.
There is a decent amount of pins all over the bottom and some that are pretty fat already
Also it's hard to take good pics. I tried
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24883038 - 01/01/18 12:07 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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TheMilkMan84 said: My bad. I’ve never seen anything in a monotub that resembles white balls aside from hyphal knots. I thought the yellowing looked like metabolites. I apologize if I gave bad info, I still have my training wheels on.
We all have our training wheels on 
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Skizor1337 said: Well if mushrooms grow are they safe to eat?
Generally speaking, unless you've got black, brown or other funky colour mold growing on your substrate, you'll be fine. A little bit of metabolites (assuming, that's what the yellowing is), is totally fine.
Often mycelium wont fruit if it has to fight a battle against mold or other strong contaminants.
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: MrRabbit-HMR]
#24883044 - 01/01/18 12:11 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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The pins you have look OK at the moment, but I'm going to go out on a whim and say that the blotchy white patch is a mold of some kind and will become obvious in the next few days.
(I say this only from talking from experience...)
Fingers crossed though that everything will be fine. Best of luck and keep us posted...
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24883211 - 01/01/18 01:52 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Well if mushrooms grow are they safe to eat?
This is an old post, but I’m guessing it’s information is still valid.
quote: "well, once your cake or casing has mold in it, so do the mushies, so yes, you are eating mold. The mushies are made up of and grow on the mycelium network. That network carries nutes to the mushies, it also carries the contam to the mushies. So if there is mold on your casing, it is also in the mushi."
My friend, that is totally false and goes against everything we've learned about how mycelium works. Mushrooms are not like plants where the mycelium is the root. It simply doesn't work that way. The mycelium metabolizes the food it 'eats'. When you go to paul stamets seminars he covers this myth in depth. He has used mycelium to clean up diesel oil spills and other toxic waste dumps and the mushrooms are completely edible and free of all toxins from the soil as established by rigorous testing with gas chromatography.
For those of you who are afraid of moldy cakes, be sure to never eat cheese, because cheese can not be made without mold. Very thick layers of mold are cut off the blocks of cheese to give them eye-appeal for the market. The cheese is safe, believe me. You've all eaten cheese all your lives.
Now, that being said, I immediately throw away any contaminated substrate as soon as I see it. The danger is in polluting my growing environment with the released spores that will contaminate future projects. However, any mushrooms on the substrate are 100% safe to eat. That is a fact. We seriously need less disinformation and fear mongering. If anyone can produce evidence from one of the established university mycological programs such as Penn State, or anything Stamets has written on the subject I will gladly eat my words. I have done serious research into this. Green molds are common in commercial mushroom operations, so if you eat store bought edible mushrooms, you are very often eating mushrooms from substrates with molds. There is not mold in the fruitbody. They are 100% safe. RR
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: TheMilkMan84]
#24883380 - 01/01/18 04:00 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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TheMilkMan84 said:
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Well if mushrooms grow are they safe to eat?
This is an old post, but I’m guessing it’s information is still valid.
quote: "well, once your cake or casing has mold in it, so do the mushies, so yes, you are eating mold. The mushies are made up of and grow on the mycelium network. That network carries nutes to the mushies, it also carries the contam to the mushies. So if there is mold on your casing, it is also in the mushi."
My friend, that is totally false and goes against everything we've learned about how mycelium works. Mushrooms are not like plants where the mycelium is the root. It simply doesn't work that way. The mycelium metabolizes the food it 'eats'. When you go to paul stamets seminars he covers this myth in depth. He has used mycelium to clean up diesel oil spills and other toxic waste dumps and the mushrooms are completely edible and free of all toxins from the soil as established by rigorous testing with gas chromatography.
For those of you who are afraid of moldy cakes, be sure to never eat cheese, because cheese can not be made without mold. Very thick layers of mold are cut off the blocks of cheese to give them eye-appeal for the market. The cheese is safe, believe me. You've all eaten cheese all your lives.
Now, that being said, I immediately throw away any contaminated substrate as soon as I see it. The danger is in polluting my growing environment with the released spores that will contaminate future projects. However, any mushrooms on the substrate are 100% safe to eat. That is a fact. We seriously need less disinformation and fear mongering. If anyone can produce evidence from one of the established university mycological programs such as Penn State, or anything Stamets has written on the subject I will gladly eat my words. I have done serious research into this. Green molds are common in commercial mushroom operations, so if you eat store bought edible mushrooms, you are very often eating mushrooms from substrates with molds. There is not mold in the fruitbody. They are 100% safe. RR
Great!!
I will keep this thread open and post pictures weekly to show progress. Might make a new one after the show final results
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24883400 - 01/01/18 04:08 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Nice information! Thank you for that!
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Skizor1337
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: ChickenFarmer]
#24883411 - 01/01/18 04:12 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Here are some more pics also.........
Took today
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24883470 - 01/01/18 04:44 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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trich about to start sporulating? pics arent 100% clear.
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Skizor1337
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Ziran]
#24883545 - 01/01/18 05:32 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Ziran said: trich about to start sporulating? pics arent 100% clear.
It's hard to get pics 
I'm using the grow light and my phone.
It just doesnt seem to come out well.
I don't know if I should move the tub to a table for better pics.
Never moved a tub until it was finished
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24883586 - 01/01/18 05:48 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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looks to be fighting for its life with all that yellow but idk for sure
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: natedog889]
#24883613 - 01/01/18 05:56 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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natedog889 said: looks to be fighting for its life with all that yellow but idk for sure
Anything I can do about it?
As I said before as long as I can eat the ones that grow I don't care if this tub lasts one flush.
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: Skizor1337]
#24883874 - 01/01/18 08:19 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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pretty sure if it fruited your cool to eat it i read in forms thos don't follow that until we get a 100% answer tho
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Re: Is this Mono contaminated or not? [Re: natedog889]
#24883932 - 01/01/18 08:56 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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oof ya sorry bud my vote is toss it
looks like trich before it goes green could be other nasties too
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