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Luminous7


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Confused - help please?
#24881129 - 12/31/17 01:08 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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So im getting pretty confused with my FAE and RH balance.
I FEEL like i need more FAE, But i also feel like im losing to much RH
Seems as though my fruits pinned very well, but now they arent growing very fast
And it seems as though they are going to be very small. Even getting some blotching.
Heres some pics, sub surface has water droplets and when i pinch a small amountits very moist.
Is there anything i can "read" from my tub to tell me if i should increase FAE or retain Humidity?
I keep pulling poly and then putting it back in , contemplating if i should mist, fanning. all this shit and im not even sure what it needs. I just feel i need to do something lol.
Heres some pics , maybe you guys can see something i cant. Any advice is much appreciated.






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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Luminous7]
#24881147 - 12/31/17 01:17 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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The FAE triggered pinning, and perhaps the back and forth with messing with poly has confused the fruits; O2 introduction followed by a choke in O2. I would keep poly loose, mist as needed, and don't fan. You seem to be doing well with sub hydration, could even use more misting once there is more FAE.
Edited by Zachsonpub (12/31/17 01:19 PM)
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Zachsonpub]
#24881162 - 12/31/17 01:24 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Zachsonpub said: The FAE triggered pinning, and perhaps the back and forth with messing with poly has confused the fruits; O2 introduction followed by a choke in O2. I would keep poly loose, mist as needed, and don't fan. You seem to be doing well with sub hydration, could even use more misting once there is more FAE.
DO you see the bacterial blotch? I think its from misting? but that would mean that there isnt enough FAE to dry the caps then right?
I thought its not ideal to be misting large pins / small fruits directly.
The sub surface never rele loses water beads .
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Luminous7]
#24881181 - 12/31/17 01:39 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Loosen poly. Less misting. More FAE.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: hamloaf]
#24881188 - 12/31/17 01:43 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Surface moisture is more important than RH for Cubes Seen peopl use no Fruiting Chamber with massive flushes" https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21288129/fpart/all/vc/1 . You need to worry more about FAE than RH.
Kind of like you need to worry more about breathing... than you do your skin drying out.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: hamloaf]
#24881251 - 12/31/17 02:09 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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hamloaf said: Loosen poly. Less misting. More FAE.
thanks . i think im over thinkin this.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: etuHad4]
#24881256 - 12/31/17 02:10 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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etuHad4 said: Surface moisture is more important than RH for Cubes Seen peopl use no Fruiting Chamber with massive flushes" https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21288129/fpart/all/vc/1 . You need to worry more about FAE than RH.
Kind of like you need to worry more about breathing... than you do your skin drying out.
Interesting. Ok i decided i need to stop stressing about Humidity and just blast with fresh air.
The surface looks moist with beads so i think its just FAE im lacking.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Luminous7]
#24881320 - 12/31/17 02:35 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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What's the size of that tub and what/how much did you put in it? Thicker subs self-maintain better.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24881333 - 12/31/17 02:40 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: What's the size of that tub and what/how much did you put in it? Thicker subs self-maintain better.
31 litres, and 2.5 inches
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: hamloaf]
#24881338 - 12/31/17 02:41 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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hamloaf said: Loosen poly. Less misting. More FAE.
Would it be a good idea to take the top poly right out ?
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Luminous7]
#24881676 - 12/31/17 05:39 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Luminous7 said:
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36fuckin5 said: What's the size of that tub and what/how much did you put in it? Thicker subs self-maintain better.
31 litres, and 2.5 inches
A substrate 5-6" deep will probably mitigate all your problems. It'll hold enough water to keep RH up so you can loosen your Poly for more FAE. Idk your particular tub and the headspace you have, but there's a good reason we use 66qt Sterilites most often. They are just well-suited to holding conditions right.
-------------------- Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.
bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.
These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#24881762 - 12/31/17 06:32 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
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Luminous7 said:
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36fuckin5 said: What's the size of that tub and what/how much did you put in it? Thicker subs self-maintain better.
31 litres, and 2.5 inches
A substrate 5-6" deep will probably mitigate all your problems. It'll hold enough water to keep RH up so you can loosen your Poly for more FAE. Idk your particular tub and the headspace you have, but there's a good reason we use 66qt Sterilites most often. They are just well-suited to holding conditions right.
The thing is the sub iwas way over saturated. When spawning i had to wring out like 2 quarts of water through a cloth before i could add spawn to the tub. It s been overly wet the whole time.
Im so confused on how to determine to dry or to wet.
Walls are bone dry now after running a fan and there stil beads of water on sub surface.
Im starting to think its humidiy thats the issue.
Its 80% on a cheap gauge and wall are bone dry.
I dont know any more. It seems im always producing small fruits. every grow.
Weather its SGFC or monotub or tray or w.e. its always small.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Luminous7]
#24881781 - 12/31/17 06:44 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Maybe its the strain? Is it the product of alot of g2g?
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: nube424]
#24881790 - 12/31/17 06:50 PM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Are you following a grain / coir prep of any kind? That should guarantee a good starting point to then adjust per your environment.
Your sub seems fine. You're getting good pinning. The suggestions above should do the trick. Off top..
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Zachsonpub]
#24882223 - 12/31/17 10:32 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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im starrting to reveal deep aspect of my self through my failed experiements.
Further understanding that the holistic issue isnt a single mushroom tub grow.
It facets my life on a deper level .
I FEEL A GENUINNE THING I HAVE LEARNED IS I NEED MORE FAE IN MY LIFE IN ALL ASPECES.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Luminous7]
#24882311 - 12/31/17 11:14 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Luminous7 said:
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36fuckin5 said: What's the size of that tub and what/how much did you put in it? Thicker subs self-maintain better.
31 litres, and 2.5 inches
A substrate 5-6" deep will probably mitigate all your problems. It'll hold enough water to keep RH up so you can loosen your Poly for more FAE. Idk your particular tub and the headspace you have, but there's a good reason we use 66qt Sterilites most often. They are just well-suited to holding conditions right.
The thing is the sub iwas way over saturated. When spawning i had to wring out like 2 quarts of water through a cloth before i could add spawn to the tub. It s been overly wet the whole time.
Im so confused on how to determine to dry or to wet.
Walls are bone dry now after running a fan and there stil beads of water on sub surface.
Im starting to think its humidiy thats the issue.
Its 80% on a cheap gauge and wall are bone dry.
I dont know any more. It seems im always producing small fruits. every grow.
Weather its SGFC or monotub or tray or w.e. its always small.
The walls being dry is not a sign of substrate microclimate. Temperature differentiation between the ambient room temp and temp inside the FC is what wet walls indicate (condensation). Get the fan out of the equation. Let the moisture of the substrate evaporate it its own rate. Mist lightly once the substrate's surface drys up.
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: hamloaf]
#24882320 - 12/31/17 11:18 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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fresh air.... i just want to breathhh
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Luminous7]
#24882375 - 12/31/17 11:50 PM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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You are an extension of your mushies.
You breathe, they breathe. They grow, you grow. Push through...
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Zachsonpub]
#24882428 - 01/01/18 12:30 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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Zachsonpub said: You are an extension of your mushies.
You breathe, they breathe. They grow, you grow. Push through...
totally. Huge break through tonight lol
Thanks homie
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Re: Confused - help please? [Re: Luminous7]
#24882890 - 01/01/18 10:47 AM (7 years, 16 days ago) |
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If your sub is too wet you shouldn't use it. Throw verm in it and re-pasteurize. Doesn't help now, but next time. If you do it all by the book it works.
-------------------- Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.
bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.
These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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