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Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom
    #24880787 - 12/31/17 10:26 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

so what are the reasons? i can only imagine these

for love of the hobby. -variety
challenge -some are harder to grow than others.
trip? all trips the same?
beauty?

no particular reason other than it's fun to cultivate different types of psilocybe mushrooms?

also how common is the psilocybe azurescens print? and is it difficult to grow? what is this mushrooms nerotoxin? i hear it can cause paralysis


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24880793 - 12/31/17 10:28 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Pretty much all of those are valid.  Azurescens prints are kind of hard to come by cheaply, but you can usually get one for $30 or so.  Extremely difficult to grow indoors, supposedly pretty easy to grow outdoors.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24880799 - 12/31/17 10:30 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

The reasons you mentioned are all valid. Potency varies from species to species. P. azurescens is generally more potent than p. cubensis.

Also, some people like to cultivate a permanent outdoor patch with woodlovers. You can't do that with cubensis in most climates.

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Psilicon]
    #24880808 - 12/31/17 10:33 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

interesting.

i'd be interested in short bullet descriptions and warnings for each species of commonly and not so commonly cultivated psilocybe mushroom.

TBH, i don't see a point to cultivating anything other than B+ and GT cubensis, but i'm looking for a reason.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24880816 - 12/31/17 10:37 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

for fun, or potency i guess

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24880819 - 12/31/17 10:38 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

so i imagine then that the mycelium for P. azurescens can be easily grown on Agar. would a deposit into some wood chips at the beginning of summer produce fruit before the end / September. summer where i live really begins in mid June, but things completely thaw by May. the summers are wet, warm and a little humid. definitely not dry. nothing like the south or even Maryland though.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24880831 - 12/31/17 10:42 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

agar - grain - to hardwood chips
June is fine to toss outside and you'll have fruit by mid sept.

Azures are heavy as shit though. Be careful and dont freak out if you cant move for a half hour :P

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Atlantis Reaction]
    #24880836 - 12/31/17 10:45 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

hahahahaha. ok hahaha


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: SadTurkey]
    #24880935 - 12/31/17 11:34 AM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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The reasons you mentioned are all valid. Potency varies from species to species. P. azurescens is generally more potent than p. cubensis.

Also, some people like to cultivate a permanent outdoor patch with woodlovers. You can't do that with cubensis in most climates.




i just read a field identification book that included psilocybe cubensis that states it grows year round outdoors.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24880994 - 12/31/17 12:08 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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TBH, i don't see a point to cultivating anything other than B+ and GT cubensis, but i'm looking for a reason.




The wilder the variety, the more genetic variance you're going to find within any given print.  You can get some really cool-looking mutations, and the full genetic spectrum is there if you want to do selection and stabilization work.  The PEs are much more potent, typically.  Leucistics look super cool.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Psilicon]
    #24881002 - 12/31/17 12:12 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

whats the difference of germination in domesticated settings versus the wild? why is it that genetic variety is higher in the wild?


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: JHOVA]
    #24881005 - 12/31/17 12:13 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

because most of the variety has itself, been domesticated for stability.

i read somewhere that a theory on why so many people bitch about bunk b+ is because that certain variety has been around for so long its lost its juice.

makes sense to me

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: mushboy]
    #24881020 - 12/31/17 12:19 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I think its noobs doing a shit job at drying b+ to cracker dry. I've never had bunk b+

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24881023 - 12/31/17 12:21 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

hahah or that.

ive never grown em:shrug:

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: JHOVA]
    #24881051 - 12/31/17 12:34 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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whats the difference of germination in domesticated settings versus the wild? why is it that genetic variety is higher in the wild?



In the wild itยดs more of a chance that spores from two different fruits will mate, but when you germinate ONE of your prints at home you are "selfing" the genes from ONE fruit. At least this is how I understand it so far. But you could mate the spores from two different fruits at home as well.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Mateja]
    #24881061 - 12/31/17 12:37 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

incest shrooms?
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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: mushboy]
    #24881080 - 12/31/17 12:45 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

If I print two caps onto the same piece of foil, will that "improve" the genes and keep the hetero****z***y up a lot?


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Mateja]
    #24881087 - 12/31/17 12:48 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I recently had 8 cakes of B+ in my sgfc for over a month along with some pesa cakes and the B+ never put out a single fruit but i had taken 2 other cakes of B+ and spawned them to bulk using the lazy mofo brf bag tek and put them in a ahoebox and got close to 14g dry from the first flush before it triched out. They seem fine potency wise i just dont understand why the cakes didnt fruit but the shoebox did it was all from the same print and all was BRF. I just thought it was kind of odd. Glad i moved onto grain though


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24881094 - 12/31/17 12:51 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

How effective would double printing be at crossing varieties? I believe I heard of workman letting myc colonize over spores that weren't germinating and he managed to get the active myc to 'absorb' the genetic info from the spores that weren't viable. I believe it was for a redspored variety that wasn't around anymore?


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Mateja]
    #24881096 - 12/31/17 12:52 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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If I print two caps onto the same piece of foil, will that "improve" the genes and keep the hetero****z***y up a lot?



If one of the caps is wild or hi heterozygous or quite different like leustic mixing with a red spore

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: mushboy]
    #24881098 - 12/31/17 12:54 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: nobody83]
    #24881336 - 12/31/17 02:41 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

I grow exotics cause I just want to. It's fun to just try different things and I get to see pretty mushrooms. With edibles I also get food for next to nothing.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #24881354 - 12/31/17 02:53 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Also it's a hobby, if you made tables for a hobby would you wanna make the same exact kind over and over with slight variations? Or would you want to expand your craft and technique and see what your capable of? If it were me I'd be making every different type of table I could, test your skill, knowledge, ability. In other words it's fun to change away from the normal. I can't even imagine with some people on this site who've been here for years. I'm sure after a couple hundred grows you'd be itching to see beyond the cube horizon.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24881682 - 12/31/17 05:43 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

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Also it's a hobby, if you made tables for a hobby would you wanna make the same exact kind over and over with slight variations? Or would you want to expand your craft and technique and see what your capable of? If it were me I'd be making every different type of table I could, test your skill, knowledge, ability. In other words it's fun to change away from the normal. I can't even imagine with some people on this site who've been here for years. I'm sure after a couple hundred grows you'd be itching to see beyond the cube horizon.




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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #24881881 - 12/31/17 07:15 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

cause theres crazy potential lying in the life cycle of fungis


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Martinsapin]
    #24882104 - 12/31/17 09:24 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

hopeless and 36fuckin'

i couldn't agree with you more. i don't know about pushing things to the limit though. but yea. it's a hobby and shrooms are pretty.


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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: TheDarkHeart]
    #24882214 - 12/31/17 10:23 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

Like pokemon man i want to grow em all. When i feel i have mastered cubes from front to back i will move on to some others.dont want to continue till i feel like i have a really great handle on it.

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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Variegated]
    #24882347 - 12/31/17 11:31 PM (7 years, 17 days ago)

yes pokimans.





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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Hopeless_Hound]
    #24936118 - 01/23/18 12:22 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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How effective would double printing be at crossing varieties? I believe I heard of workman letting myc colonize over spores that weren't germinating and he managed to get the active myc to 'absorb' the genetic info from the spores that weren't viable. I believe it was for a redspored variety that wasn't around anymore?




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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: Workman]
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Re: Reasons for growing different types psilocybe mushroom [Re: hamloaf]
    #24936306 - 01/23/18 01:38 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

So for instance. I have witnessed a very old syringe produce tomentose myc from very old stock. Talking 10+ years. Even though it wasnt contaminated it was just barely grow no matter how many transfers i tried. I used an entire 10cc and got 1 spot of growth on many plates and jars trying to get lucky.
Theoretically could I have placed another cube variety on same plate and the new rigorous culture would mix with the other genetics?
I was under the impression the stronger culture would just reprogram for lack of a better term the old weak culture?
Am i missing the boat here?
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