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Shrooms4life
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Skizor1337]
#24885244 - 01/02/18 03:11 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Thanks brother! I just can't seem to figure out what's causing all the subs in my GH to bruise blue like that :/ maybe the misting and super humidity?? Idk I'm stumped lol just waiting on pins now.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24885516 - 01/02/18 05:00 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Not to bad looking, you should get some nice fruits. I personally, based on my own experiences, think the mycelium is so aggressive because there is some slight bacteria in there, but bacteria doesn't stop fruits. To me it just looks like mycelium that is trying to outpace something. Once again this is only based on my experiences with bacterial tubs.
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TheMadHatter420 said: Not to bad looking, you should get some nice fruits. I personally, based on my own experiences, think the mycelium is so aggressive because there is some slight bacteria in there, but bacteria doesn't stop fruits. To me it just looks like mycelium that is trying to outpace something. Once again this is only based on my experiences with bacterial tubs.
Yeah man you could be right only time will tell mow. I've heard from members here that going from ms to rye to pre made sub *this is my last go with them* that there is probably bacteria either way.
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24885595 - 01/02/18 05:38 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Yea spore straight to grain will have at least a slight bit of bacteria. There is just no way to have a 100% clean spore syringe, maybe if you grew it in vitro, never opened the container except when harvesting and did all work in front of a flow hood. Spore prints, by nature, just carry contams with them.
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TheMadHatter420 said: Yea spore straight to grain will have at least a slight bit of bacteria. There is just no way to have a 100% clean spore syringe, maybe if you grew it in vitro, never opened the container except when harvesting and did all work in front of a flow hood. Spore prints, by nature, just carry contams with them.
True that brother it makes sense, in your opinion should I go ms to agar make a few healthy transfers and then go agar to whole oats?
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24885875 - 01/02/18 07:38 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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Spore to agar, clean up on agar, then to grains is a safer route.
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24885922 - 01/02/18 07:53 PM (7 years, 15 days ago) |
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TheMadHatter420 said: Yea spore straight to grain will have at least a slight bit of bacteria. There is just no way to have a 100% clean spore syringe, maybe if you grew it in vitro, never opened the container except when harvesting and did all work in front of a flow hood. Spore prints, by nature, just carry contams with them.
True that brother it makes sense, in your opinion should I go ms to agar make a few healthy transfers and then go agar to whole oats?
This is what I did and will continue to do.
MS to agar. Agar to agar agar to grain Grain to grain.
Honestly you will never use MS again
Just use the agar to multiply your agar then use some agar for a g2g jar. Then use your g2g jar to make how ever many grain jars you want
Then use those jars to spawn to bulk.
Rinse repeat.
I use pint jars and a small pressure cooker.
I can only do 3 pints at a time.
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Skizor1337]
#24886981 - 01/03/18 09:05 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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TheMadHatter420 said: Yea spore straight to grain will have at least a slight bit of bacteria. There is just no way to have a 100% clean spore syringe, maybe if you grew it in vitro, never opened the container except when harvesting and did all work in front of a flow hood. Spore prints, by nature, just carry contams with them.
True that brother it makes sense, in your opinion should I go ms to agar make a few healthy transfers and then go agar to whole oats?
This is what I did and will continue to do.
MS to agar. Agar to agar agar to grain Grain to grain.
Honestly you will never use MS again
Just use the agar to multiply your agar then use some agar for a g2g jar. Then use your g2g jar to make how ever many grain jars you want
Then use those jars to spawn to bulk.
Rinse repeat.
I use pint jars and a small pressure cooker.
I can only do 3 pints at a time.
Thanks for the tip brother I think I'll go that route! Lucky for me Christmas brought a 23 qt presto pc so I'll have room for plenty of grain jars Other then that still no pinning on the tray :patience: The 3rd flush of my cake is getting huge and is loving open air fruiting and breathing like a boss! 2nd flush of my burmas are pinning good now and will probably put out another 20g dried give or take. And I made up 1 shoebox on the 1st that's doing freaking awesome and 3 more last night that all should be fruiting by this time next week:) (Green spot on the tray is really blue bruising I can't figure out what's causing it though) PICS!!
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24887252 - 01/03/18 11:26 AM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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I have the 23qt presto also. I love the capacity. Subbed.
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: FunGuy0621]
#24889046 - 01/04/18 06:19 AM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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So here's a little update!
This morning I harvested my 3rd flush of cubensis huatula, only got 82 grams wet but I'm thinking the cake is nearly spent it looks gross. The 2nd flush of burmas is filling in nicely and It should push another 15 grams give or take a few. I upgraded my lighting a bit with 2 48" t8 6500k bulbs and the boomers love it!
Oh and the bulk tray has 1 pin lol but only one! So hopefully it triggers the others to start but atleast it's somthing! And shoeboxes are looking freaking Awesome! I'm shocked how fast they colonize it's been 2 days I'm at 65%.
 I'll take a pic of the tray pin once it's more impressive
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24889078 - 01/04/18 06:46 AM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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Ur substrate looks like that from drying. Still looks full enough tho for another flush. Id dunk it for 24 hrs. Or longer if its still light after 24
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: nube424]
#24889318 - 01/04/18 09:51 AM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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nube424 said: Ur substrate looks like that from drying. Still looks full enough tho for another flush. Id dunk it for 24 hrs. Or longer if its still light after 24
Thanks for the tip, I might give it a shot but id probably end up with 5gs or less.
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24889331 - 01/04/18 10:00 AM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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Why only 5 gs? I just pulled 2oz dry off a cake a tray a lil bigger than that.
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Shrooms4life
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: nube424]
#24889730 - 01/04/18 12:42 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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nube424 said: Why only 5 gs? I just pulled 2oz dry off a cake a tray a lil bigger than that.
I got 29 grams dried 1st flush from these.. it could be cause of ms, could be cause it's a small fruiting variety? Who knows but I've had 5 of these "cakes" and not a single one has pulled over 30 grams dry a flush.
Hence why I'm moving to monos and shoeboxes and getting rid of this premade substrate grow kits.
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24889818 - 01/04/18 01:30 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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nube424 said: Why only 5 gs? I just pulled 2oz dry off a cake a tray a lil bigger than that.
I got 29 grams dried 1st flush from these.. it could be cause of ms, could be cause it's a small fruiting variety? Who knows but I've had 5 of these "cakes" and not a single one has pulled over 30 grams dry a flush.
Hence why I'm moving to monos and shoeboxes and getting rid of this premade substrate grow kits.
Yea man with your sweet little stand up green house thing those shoeboxes are perfect as hell.
I don' t have a greenhouse setup but only a closet but I am only focusing on the shoebox method. I just had a monotub and it went bad on me. I was pissed but decided it's time to focus on a different method.
Good work so far
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Skizor1337]
#24889829 - 01/04/18 01:36 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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nube424 said: Why only 5 gs? I just pulled 2oz dry off a cake a tray a lil bigger than that.
I got 29 grams dried 1st flush from these.. it could be cause of ms, could be cause it's a small fruiting variety? Who knows but I've had 5 of these "cakes" and not a single one has pulled over 30 grams dry a flush.
Hence why I'm moving to monos and shoeboxes and getting rid of this premade substrate grow kits.
Yea man with your sweet little stand up green house thing those shoeboxes are perfect as hell.
I don' t have a greenhouse setup but only a closet but I am only focusing on the shoebox method. I just had a monotub and it went bad on me. I was pissed but decided it's time to focus on a different method.
Good work so far 
Thanks brother! Sorry to hear about your mono, where do you think It went wrong and why? These things help with furture projects.
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24889837 - 01/04/18 01:41 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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nube424 said: Why only 5 gs? I just pulled 2oz dry off a cake a tray a lil bigger than that.
I got 29 grams dried 1st flush from these.. it could be cause of ms, could be cause it's a small fruiting variety? Who knows but I've had 5 of these "cakes" and not a single one has pulled over 30 grams dry a flush.
Hence why I'm moving to monos and shoeboxes and getting rid of this premade substrate grow kits.
Yea man with your sweet little stand up green house thing those shoeboxes are perfect as hell.
I don' t have a greenhouse setup but only a closet but I am only focusing on the shoebox method. I just had a monotub and it went bad on me. I was pissed but decided it's time to focus on a different method.
Good work so far 
Thanks brother! Sorry to hear about your mono, where do you think It went wrong and why? These things help with future projects.
I honestly have no idea bro.
It blows big time. I made sure that shit was perfect as hell from the time i mixed all the sub and coir to gather to the time I took it out to fruit it.
I guess it can just happen. That's why the last week I have been going overkill with spawn jars. I ran out of lids today which is nice because I have about 15 pint size jars with a big ass piece of agar in each of them. I will use one for g2g when the time comes and I get some more lids back haha.
I plan on doing 1.5quarts (3 pints) per shoebox maybe even 1 quart.
That's perfect for me because I can only fit 3 pint size jars in my PC at a time anyway.
Never bought quart size jars yet. I kinda like the mini versions of things. Shoeboxes just seem my route. And from what I read and have seen from Munchauzen in a few posts his shit is off the hook
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Skizor1337]
#24889860 - 01/04/18 01:59 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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That's weird man, did it tam out before the 1st flush??
Also themadhatter420 just pulled 970 grams wet outta a shoebox with 2 quarts of spawn!
My shoeboxes should be fruiting in about 2-3 days from now and my GH holds 12 of them perfectly.
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Shrooms4life]
#24889951 - 01/04/18 02:37 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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Shrooms4life said: That's weird man, did it tam out before the 1st flush??
Also themadhatter420 just pulled 970 grams wet outta a shoebox with 2 quarts of spawn!
My shoeboxes should be fruiting in about 2-3 days from now and my GH holds 12 of them perfectly.
It got contam before the first flush was even finished. I picked what I could even though the caps didn't even open and tossed the rest
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Re: Need opinions on my mini mono growth. [Re: Skizor1337]
#24889992 - 01/04/18 02:57 PM (7 years, 13 days ago) |
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Sucks brother man, just gotta make sure that spawn is nice and clean from agar to grains! My agar stuff is on the way I'm excited.
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