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Offlineyellowbricktoad

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What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek
    #24864061 - 12/23/17 02:30 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Hi everyone, I have been waiting for my B+ jars to colonize in the BRF jars however they never fully did... I checked today and there are little baby shrooms in the jar these jars were inoculated 5 weeks ago. These are the pictures from today of 2 jars that have baby shrooms in them...



What do I do now? I wasn’t prepared for this yet and I don’t have a sgfc set up. Any help I would appreciate I am pretty new to growing and I am super excited to see shrooms not Mold lol but where do go from here? Thank you for reading, hope everyone’s enjoying their Christmas holidays


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And pour the waters of the Nile
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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: yellowbricktoad]
    #24864092 - 12/23/17 02:46 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

thats strange. i would just make something quick. or, u might have better luck breaking those up and spawning into coir. just take the shrooms out if u do that. or just put a zip lock over ur jar with no lid on it. remove bag to mist and give air and put back. u could get fruits out of the top of the jar and print them so u can have a bunch of spores to mess around with

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: nube424]
    #24864123 - 12/23/17 03:07 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Thanks for replying back, I’m leaning towards the idea of putting a ziplock over the bag with the jar. In order to do this should I take off the uncolonized parts? Do I flip the cake in the jar seeing as they are all growing at the bottom?


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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: yellowbricktoad]
    #24864129 - 12/23/17 03:10 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

this is what i would do to be honest. u still got verm? take the cake out and remove fruits and brush off dry verm. get some new verm and get it to the right moisture and put the cake back in the jar covered with 1/4" of the moist verm. put the bag on and wait.

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: nube424]
    #24864131 - 12/23/17 03:10 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

I believe sometimes they put off fruit before full colonization of the mycelium runs into contam.


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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: ChickenFarmer]
    #24864137 - 12/23/17 03:14 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

that is true. but it could just be bacteria. thats why i suggested removing all the old verm. bacteria is fine its just not ideal. and u could get mutants. but hes just doing this to save his strain. just trying to get some prints to try again. can u see any contams? pics arent as good as ur own eyes

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: nube424]
    #24864153 - 12/23/17 03:20 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

That is also A LOT of pins. Something is off


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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: ChickenFarmer]
    #24864160 - 12/23/17 03:23 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

no i was asking him if he can see any contams with his naked eye that we cant see. its def off tho. some kinda contam. just hope its just a lil bacteria

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: nube424]
    #24864182 - 12/23/17 03:31 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

No I couldn’t see any contams but from the same batch I had to throw out 3 jars due to Mold like a week ago.

Also how do I get it to the right moisture content again? By just making sure the verm is coated with water? With the bag and wait till I see pins through the verm later or should I be removing the bag daily to water and fresh air?


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"How doth the little crocodile
Improve his shining tail,
And pour the waters of the Nile
On every golden scale"

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: yellowbricktoad]
    #24864216 - 12/23/17 03:47 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Search for "top fruiting" on here. I don't think there is really a set procedure as most people would rather just throw it out rather than keep any contams around. I'm like you however and would like to get the most out of what I've grown so far. I have 2 jars that I've moved into a separate room by themselves. I've marked the mycelium on the jars to keep track of growth. As soon as they've stopped growing I will fruit them out of the top of the jar. I will pull them from the jar, rinse, remove extra verm and any contaminated area I can. I will then dunk them and put them back in the jars with a new, thin, layer of dry verm on top. I will keep a gallon ziploc over the top of them and mist as they need it.

A very big concern with doing this is spreading whatever is in your jar, all over your house. I keep my area separated front the rest of my grows, on an easily cleanable surface. A lot of people will ups probably disagree with my and say it's a waste of time, and they're probably right. But it's what I'm going to do.


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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: ChickenFarmer]
    #24864227 - 12/23/17 03:55 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Thank you for the detailed explanation. I’m a bit nervous about the contams floating everywhere as you just described as I have another grow going on in a seperate room... these ones are in my kitchen due to previous suspicion Of contams.


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"How doth the little crocodile
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And pour the waters of the Nile
On every golden scale"

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: yellowbricktoad]
    #24864232 - 12/23/17 03:57 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

no pour a little water in the verm and mix it. squeeze it. if it doesnt drip add a LITTLE more. till u squeeze it and only a drop or 2 comes out

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: yellowbricktoad]
    #24864235 - 12/23/17 03:58 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

if theres no visable colors theres probly no mold spores in there. most likely bacteria. i dont see any other myc in there besides shroom myc. even if it was white mold it would look different

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: nube424]
    #24864252 - 12/23/17 04:06 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

That's responding to a contam, probably bacteria. It's not OK and you shouldn't eat those fruits. Start over.

For your next batch, add 2 parts water to 1 part verm, mix, then add 1 part BRF and mix. That will be perfect every time.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #24864258 - 12/23/17 04:09 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

hes new to this and just trying to save his grow

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: nube424]
    #24864264 - 12/23/17 04:10 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

And you're just trying to make someone sick. Bacteria isn't something to play with. Those cakes are trash.

Mushrooms aren't plants. You can't save a grow in a proper way.


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Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #24864546 - 12/23/17 06:59 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

Thanks for the replies everyone..  I tossed the jars.

I have another strain growing in the other room so I still have hope.


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Improve his shining tail,
And pour the waters of the Nile
On every golden scale"

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: yellowbricktoad]
    #24865259 - 12/24/17 05:28 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

ur right. its safer to toss. but bacteria is in every grow. bacteria is everywhere. even the cleanest grow could develope a little bacteria. but the other grow u have going, get as many clean prints as u can so u have plenty of spores to continue learning the trade with. always good to have alot of back up so u can trash supsect jars without feeling like u failed. try grain jars maybe. if u can get the moisture content right its alot less work than cakes.

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Re: What do I do with these? Shrooms in the jar ... PF Tek [Re: nube424]
    #24865488 - 12/24/17 08:42 AM (7 years, 24 days ago)

Bacteria are on everything. It's the type of bacteria that's the issue. And actually, there shouldn't be any in a sterile jar or PF cake. That's why we go through the effort to heat stuff instead of using chemicals.


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Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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