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mushboy
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887324 - 01/03/18 12:13 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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link tht shit bro i gotta read it
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: mushboy]
#24887340 - 01/03/18 12:22 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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mushboy said: link tht shit bro i gotta read it
Hilarious.
Okay, it's a three-video tech. I'm linking the third video because, in the first two videos, he's doing pan cyan, for which he DOESN'T put the polyfil holes in the top tub, though he still puts the 1/4 inch holes above the sub in the bottom tub.
In the third video, he says that, by demand, he's showing the cube set-up, for which he puts BOTH the 1/4 inch holes in the bottom tub and the 1 inch polyfil holes in the top tub, though he says he ran out of polyfil and had to use micropore. He says there's no big difference between the two, which is also something I have found not to be true in the case of shoeboxes. But I digress.
Here's the vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXKd2brDKAU
Edited by Skulltivator (01/03/18 12:23 PM)
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887345 - 01/03/18 12:27 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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ok.. to be honest the dumping the water out those holes isnt bad. but after growing a few mushrooms you should LEARN how much water your substrates consume so you dont have to pour out excess water like that. 'dunk' to rehydrate. not drown. 1/2 cup for a shoebox is usually all it needs after a good ~1 oz dry first flush. i could wildly accuse him of pouring nutes off his sub
he tries to help people i guess... yay for that.. but damn hes a tard.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: mushboy]
#24887363 - 01/03/18 12:43 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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mushboy said: ok.. to be honest the dumping the water out those holes isnt bad. but after growing a few mushrooms you should LEARN how much water your substrates consume so you dont have to pour out excess water like that. 'dunk' to rehydrate. not drown. 1/2 cup for a shoebox is usually all it needs after a good ~1 oz dry first flush. i could wildly accuse him of pouring nutes off his sub
he tries to help people i guess... yay for that.. but damn hes a tard.
Man, you're really making bust a gut over here today. 
Sure, I never assumed he was perfect. Just happened to bump into his tek before yours.
He used to hang out here, didn't he? In his earlier vids, he brings up this forum and RR a lot and says he's indebted to them for learnin' him how to do this shit when he was a noob. Does anybody know his handle on here?
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887402 - 01/03/18 01:10 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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That would be christmas in january.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887444 - 01/03/18 01:28 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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if he was here? he didnt listen for shit. or he thinks straggle shrooms will impress me
i like canopies. even if they are short.

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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: JHOVA]
#24887676 - 01/03/18 03:27 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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JHOVA said: That would be christmas in january.
Sorry, not following. What would be xmas in jan?
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: mushboy]
#24887679 - 01/03/18 03:28 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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mushboy said: if he was here? he didnt listen for shit. or he thinks straggle shrooms will impress me
i like canopies. even if they are short.


Straggle shrooms? Are you saying the shrooms he produced in the vid suck because there wasn't any real canopy?
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887692 - 01/03/18 03:34 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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im just hatin' ...but yah, kinda just my opinion.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: mushboy]
#24887704 - 01/03/18 03:39 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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mushboy said: im just hatin' ...but yah, kinda;) just my opinion.
Okay. That's fine. I just wanted to make sure I was understanding the criticism. I think everyone would prefer canopies and his from the vid was not quite that, I agree.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887707 - 01/03/18 03:42 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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id rather have many, dense shrooms then a bunch of larger ones. something about dosing on a 2gram half stem doesnt seem like as much fun.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: mushboy]
#24887731 - 01/03/18 03:52 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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mushboy said: id rather have many, dense shrooms then a bunch of larger ones. something about dosing on a 2gram half stem doesnt seem like as much fun.
Well, I've had powerful experiences on huge stems. In the main, though, it does seem to be consensus around here that denser = better, gram for gram, and since I'm new at this, I'm in no position to disagree. The whole potency thing and how it works is a bit of a mystery to me.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887748 - 01/03/18 04:00 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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I think Willy serves an important function to this community. All of the people who think forums are too difficult because they actually have to research and put in time are on YouTube instead. He's keeping them entertained so they can get their jollies off. I started with watching his videos. I decided I wanted to learn less about where to buy stuff and more of why experienced growers do what they do. The people commenting on his videos don't know or care what a canopy is. They just want shrooms man.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887750 - 01/03/18 04:01 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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Okay, here's what they look like now:

That's in the 1642's from your tek (target! -- w*mart was out ), no mod's, alligator-clipped only on one side. I gave them a spray before I a-clipped them.
They're still on a 12-12 lighting. Actually, it usually ends up being closer 8-off, 16-on since I'm often working in the same room, but that last 1-4 hours of lighting is tungsten rather than daylight.
So I'm not supposed to fan anymore. What about misting?
Also, the left one (the 'first' one from previous posts, i.e. the one that produced 4 mushrooms in addition to bulbs) cracked in a couple places when I transplanted it. I was VERY gentle but nevertheless unsurprised because, as I said some posts back, it looked weak when I dunked it. Think it'll recover?
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: ChickenFarmer]
#24887763 - 01/03/18 04:06 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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ChickenFarmer said: I think Willy serves an important function to this community. All of the people who think forums are too difficult because they actually have to research and put in time are on YouTube instead. He's keeping them entertained so they can get their jollies off. I started with watching his videos. I decided I wanted to learn less about where to buy stuff and more of why experienced growers do what they do. The people commenting on his videos don't know or care what a canopy is. They just want shrooms man.
I don't have a problem with any of that. I go to him because, sometimes, it's nice to see a tek in video rather than words and pictures. And a lot of his teks don't deviate from what we do here because, of course, he learned them here. So, at that point, his stuff just becomes a video companion to one of our teks.
Obviously, everyone here recognises this utility of video in general, which is why BOD, Munchauzen, etc. have produced their own vids on this forum.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887770 - 01/03/18 04:08 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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shoeboxes can dry out. so misting is done just to keep the surface glistening. like 2 or 3 sprays from a few feet away. maybe once a day if that.
post pics if you arnt sure. over misting sucks. slightly dry is usually better than slightly wet.
i wouldnt even bother misting until the surface is a good 30-50% colonized. if you have too, id keep the lid snapped on until 'fruiting'
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: mushboy]
#24887796 - 01/03/18 04:19 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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mushboy said: shoeboxes can dry out. so misting is done just to keep the surface glistening. like 2 or 3 sprays from a few feet away. maybe once a day if that.
post pics if you arnt sure. over misting sucks. slightly dry is usually better than slightly wet.
i wouldnt even bother misting until the surface is a good 30-50% colonized. if you have too, id keep the lid snapped on until 'fruiting'
Got it. But that's advice for pre-first flush, right? I'm now at pre-second flush. Here's what the subs look like now.
First/left one:

Second/right one:

What's your analysis? Just leave as is and mist when they look like they're drying out? Obviously, the left is way more moist than the right since I just dunked the left.
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: Skulltivator]
#24887816 - 01/03/18 04:28 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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ooh im sorry derp.
i just give a soaking/drenching mist, or pour in some water. snap the lid back on and let em sit. all the fancy fruiting shit is to try to get the most out of the first flush. the later ones i basically set n forget
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Re: Update and Questions on Those PE Shoeboxes (with PICS!) [Re: mushboy]
#24888041 - 01/03/18 06:08 PM (7 years, 14 days ago) |
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mushboy said: ooh im sorry derp.
i just give a soaking/drenching mist, or pour in some water. snap the lid back on and let em sit. all the fancy fruiting shit is to try to get the most out of the first flush. the later ones i basically set n forget
Oh, interesting. I'll bear that in mind.
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Skulltivator said: Just leave as is and mist when they look like they're drying out

Okay, good enough. Thanks for all your input here. Very helpful.
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