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The Poppy Family............
    #2484621 - 03/30/04 07:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Will all the different types of poppy's(the poppy family)produce opium?
I know the opium poppy is the best one that produces opium,but will they all produce opium?
The reason I am asking is I cant order any seeds via the internet,so Ive been checking at the local gardening stores and they have some poppy seeds.So I was wondering if I grow the ones from the Dollar Store will they in fact produce opium?
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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2486359 - 03/31/04 07:04 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

papaver somniforum (opium poppy) is the only poppy that's worth your time. california poppy isn't even a true poppy. i hear that poppy seeds used for culinary purposes can sometimes have a good germination rate. i always get my seeds from ethnogenic source but i have heard of some success with cooking seeds. i read that most cooking seeds are the tasmanian strain which is one of the highest praised stains out there.

good luck if you choose to grow!
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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Psilostylin]
    #2486942 - 03/31/04 01:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thanks...


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Psilostylin]
    #2487877 - 03/31/04 07:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I have germinated regular old spice rack poppy seed many times and most usually pop up. I just haven't been able to get any to grow to maturity. I also haven't done much homework on the subject so I couldn't say that the survival rate is because of the seeds or, as is most likely, my skills at growing poppies.


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2487955 - 03/31/04 08:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

cool.......I think I am just going to order some Hens and Chicks Opium Poppy seeds from BBB,hopefully(knock on lots of wood)I will get some yeild from them.
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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2506266 - 04/01/04 06:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

www.natures-mind.com rocks for seeds... i just got some hens and chicks from them and they gave me some persian whites for free :thumbup:


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Infrared]
    #2506646 - 04/01/04 06:59 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

awesome,thanks DeepBlue.
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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2507793 - 04/01/04 08:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i'm rockin persain whites now, they just germed last week. can't wait till it goes to pod! but good choice on hens and chicks. they look cool and are quite potent. so enjoy!

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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Psilostylin]
    #2509800 - 04/01/04 09:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

great....good luck psilostylin


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2519183 - 04/02/04 04:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I got a surprise today.
My poppy plants are flowering. This is what's funny about it all, though. The two plants that are flowering are only 8" tall. These are the plants that came from the store bought spice rack poppy seed.

I really have to get some batteries for my digi cam so that I can post some pics.

If this is as big as these get then I'll never get anything from them. HaHa


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2519356 - 04/02/04 05:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

damn Ekstaza...thats cool as hell,I didnt know if that would truely work or not,I might try to grow some store bought poppy seeds.I read the other day that some poppy seeds in stores(used for cooking)are in fact Papaver Somniferum strain poppy's,if so,then Im gonna by the store out of their poppys,lol.
Good Luck with your grow!
PM me if you get any latex from your pods please!
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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2519514 - 04/02/04 06:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i've had that happen, it was pretty neat. I never snapped a pic though.


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2519520 - 04/02/04 06:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

8" ? man that's a shorty.....oh well, maybe some of the others will be a tad bigger but i'm sure you'll get a little of that goodness. yeah dude i'd love to see some flicks, that'd be awesome. i really need a digi cam. anyone know how much a decent one runs for?...i'm getting a job soon so expect either a log or some flicks.

oh yeah check this out...i was walking my dog about a week ago, and as she was crapping on some peoples lawn, i notice about ten poppies about a foot off the sidewalk! all flowering! how the hell did i not notice this? it's only like 3 houses down from me. two pods are pedal less and fully mature (might have to go slicing and scoring soon)... it was one hell of a surprise. but that shit always happends to me. i've never bought opium, i've always harvested it on my own from my plants or just a patch that i happend to stumble along. i love that shit!

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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Psilostylin]
    #2520114 - 04/02/04 10:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

hell yeah bro........I wish I was that lucky.
If I was to grow some non-opium poppy's,like the california poppy or corn poppy,and I sliced the pods,I know it wouldnt be straight opium(morphine or codeine),but could I smoke the narcotine/papaverine or any of the other ingrediants in opium besides Morphine and codeine,or can these ingredients only be found in the opium poppy(papaver somniferum)?
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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2520248 - 04/03/04 12:01 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Ekstaza said:
Well, I got a surprise today.
My poppy plants are flowering. This is what's funny about it all, though. The two plants that are flowering are only 8" tall. These are the plants that came from the store bought spice rack poppy seed.

I really have to get some batteries for my digi cam so that I can post some pics.

If this is as big as these get then I'll never get anything from them. HaHa



The poppies are only 8" tall because countries like India use underage child labor (slaves)to harvest their poppies.. The poppies are specialy bred to stay short.When I first heard of this,I boycotted everything with poppy seeds on it. So far no one has noticed.


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2520369 - 04/03/04 12:52 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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pfshroomer said:

If I was to grow some non-opium poppy's,like the california poppy or corn poppy,and I sliced the pods,I know it wouldnt be straight opium(morphine or codeine),but could I smoke the narcotine/papaverine or any of the other ingrediants in opium besides Morphine and codeine,or can these ingredients only be found in the opium poppy(papaver somniferum)?







i don't know a lot about corn or cali poppies but i do know that your better off just growing papaver somniforum(opium poppy). most people don't even know how to identify it. i came across entirely a whole front yard of pops growing a block away from a cop station and the only one who knew what was up was me and probably the owners. i'm not saying it's totally safe (you can always get busted) but as long as you're smart about it you should be cool. imo those other pops are just a waste of time. i don't know about the corn poppy but the only chemical that the cali has that p. somniforum has is protopine (i'm pretty sure anyhow). and protopine isn't anything special. just go with the opium poppy that way you have over 40 chemicals to have fun with.

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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Psilostylin]
    #2520422 - 04/03/04 01:32 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

cool..thanks Psilostylin,youve been a great help!
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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: pfshroomer]
    #2520478 - 04/03/04 02:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

california poppy sucks. if your gonna go through the trouble of growing some popppies, might as well just grow the good ones


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2591292 - 04/22/04 03:51 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I finally got pics of my tiny poppies. I just have to wait a few hours to post them though.


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Re: The Poppy Family............ [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2591735 - 04/22/04 05:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i just went outside and saw about a thousand poppy sprouts in various places throughout my yard :grin:  MMMmmmmmmm .... poppies


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