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Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ * 2
    #24834839 - 12/08/17 11:44 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

:hi:This thread is dedicated to caerulescens.

(Species info here)

*this thread is currently under heavy construction*


Im currently working on caerulescens W. Big thank you to a very shroomy cat lewp!

Im on T2 ms wild, its slower than cubes but not by much very possibly do to bacteria still present, even at this early xfer it doesn't seem to mind the tams and has uniform growth.
(Will update with pics)

If you received a swab from me please post results here along with your notes!:vibin:

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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: LemurLemur]
    #24834875 - 12/09/17 12:03 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)



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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: cronicr]
    #24834883 - 12/09/17 12:08 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Notes please?


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: LemurLemur]
    #24834892 - 12/09/17 12:11 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Agar grain to wood mulch lol..i didnt pay much attention to this run just clonized a small amount and tossed it on the porch and put some peat moss on top


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: cronicr]
    #24834904 - 12/09/17 12:15 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Wood hu? What species/variety??


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: LemurLemur]
    #24834938 - 12/09/17 12:33 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Is this not a caerulescens thread?


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: cronicr]
    #24834946 - 12/09/17 12:35 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

i think he/she blew it


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: championmushroom]
    #24834953 - 12/09/17 12:37 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

dont caerulescens grow around Michigan?


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: cronicr]
    #24834967 - 12/09/17 12:51 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

P. caerulescens ssp. caerulescens var. albida
P. caerulescens var. mazatecorum
P. mazatecorum
P. caerulescens var. nigripes
P. mazatecorum f. ombrophila
P. mazatecorum f. heliophila
P. mixaeensis
P. caerulescens ssp. mazatecorum var. ombrophila
P. wrightii
P. caerulescens var. ombrophila
P. heliconiae
P. weilii
P. villarrealiae
P. subannulata
P. bispora
P. caribaea

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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: championmushroom]
    #24834969 - 12/09/17 12:53 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Got any pics pf fully developed caerulescens?


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: LemurLemur]
    #24834980 - 12/09/17 12:59 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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P. caerulescens ssp. caerulescens var. albida
P. caerulescens var. mazatecorum
P. mazatecorum
P. caerulescens var. nigripes
P. mazatecorum f. ombrophila
P. mazatecorum f. heliophila
P. mixaeensis
P. caerulescens ssp. mazatecorum var. ombrophila
P. wrightii
P. caerulescens var. ombrophila
P. heliconiae
P. weilii
P. villarrealiae
P. subannulata
P. bispora
P. caribaea

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caerulescens is the species these are villarrealiae...the fruited for me but slugs got them once they pinned


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: cronicr]
    #24836400 - 12/09/17 07:07 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Good luck lemur :rockon:

I've been trying to grow p. caerulescens from wild spores, but I haven't fruited any yet. I have a few wild clones on agar now also but they aren't ready to use yet.

This is a unmodified 20qt tub that I spawned on 11/5. MS syringe -> BRF cakes -> CVG. Cakes were inoculated on 9/23. Substrate height is about 6" with a thin casing layer of cvg.


There's some metabolites and a small green spot but the contams haven't been growing for a few weeks. Fingers crossed.


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24836419 - 12/09/17 07:16 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Oh shit now:awetongue:


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: LemurLemur]
    #24836474 - 12/09/17 07:48 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)



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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: cronicr]
    #24849500 - 12/16/17 11:25 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

I don't check this tub everyday. I have some action finally!



Nothing incredible, but I'm excited to have some pins. I cracked the lid on the tubs and moved it under my lights. I think it looks like I might get a few more pins.  There's been an increase of metabolites also. I'm not sure if I'll get another flush, but I have some more attempts on the way.


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24849610 - 12/16/17 12:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

:pipesmoke: i wonder if a late casing would be beneficial so much to discover... definitely take a clone of that big one!


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: LemurLemur]
    #24854392 - 12/18/17 08:16 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Nice to see pins! what temp do you keep your tube for fruiting?


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24854436 - 12/18/17 08:43 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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I don't check this tub everyday. I have some action finally!



Nothing incredible, but I'm excited to have some pins. I cracked the lid on the tubs and moved it under my lights. I think it looks like I might get a few more pins.  There's been an increase of metabolites also. I'm not sure if I'll get another flush, but I have some more attempts on the way.



Metabs are common with these no worries


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: cronicr]
    #24854817 - 12/18/17 11:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

:popcorn:  :takingnotes:


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: V.L]
    #24857119 - 12/20/17 08:22 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)



Still chugging.  Should I mop up the pools of metabolites or just let it do its thing?

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Nice to see pins! what temp do you keep your tube for fruiting?



Nothing special, my thermostat is set to 68.  It's an older house so temps can swing a few degrees.


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24858578 - 12/20/17 08:20 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

they look nice! for pools it's your's, too much liquid is not really good but to touch a growing tub is not very good too.. soon you can have indoor print of caerulescens congrat :smile:


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24859774 - 12/21/17 12:40 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

What part of the year you'd pick wild 1s?

Id dap it with tp so it doesnt get gooey


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: LemurLemur]
    #24860322 - 12/21/17 04:12 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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What part of the year you'd pick wild 1s?

Id dap it with tp so it doesnt get gooey



I was picking from June until late October this year.  Most of the prints I sent were post Irma. I started taking good prints around that time.

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they look nice! for pools it's your's, too much liquid is not really good but to touch a growing tub is not very good too.. soon you can have indoor print of caerulescens congrat :smile:




Thanks, I'm going to print and take clones of plenty.


I dabbed up some of the metabs. I have two more pins but some of the fruit are showing weird features.  One is flipped over and looks to be sterile.  The other cap seems to be bleached.  I left the lid off for a few hours today while I was working a half day.  Maybe direct light isn't good for these guys. The 20qt tub has an opaque lid.


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24860363 - 12/21/17 04:36 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24860383 - 12/21/17 04:45 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

:bender:i waiting for the dunk, i bet fertilizers would do something :pipesmoke:


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    #24865204 - 12/24/17 06:39 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

These are from today.  Not sure what's going on but everything appears to be sterile. Fruit shape is weird and coloring is off.  :snow:


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24865212 - 12/24/17 06:46 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

:camping:


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    #24867094 - 12/25/17 06:42 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Cute!! maybe not dark but need a try on tinfoil :wink:


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    #24867126 - 12/25/17 07:49 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I wonder the potency :pipesmoke:


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    #24910650 - 01/13/18 01:36 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I've been busy with the holidays, but here's another set of fruit.  Everything has been growing curled and thin, not really sure what that is about.  There's a couple different causes I can imagine.


I have enough dry now to try a potency test.  I'm waiting until I have a chance to do a two week tolerance break from 5-HT2A agonists though.


My minitub started getting some green mold growing on top:


It's still producing fruit so I decide to try some surgery. I've read many posts about how this never works, but hopefully it will at least slow the spread.



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    #24910675 - 01/13/18 01:43 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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    #24923295 - 01/18/18 04:07 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

My tub from November is still going strong. I think I have 7 new pins.  Here's some of them:


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    #24936950 - 01/23/18 08:04 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)



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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: lewp]
    #24952114 - 01/29/18 01:33 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

:takingnotes:


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    #24954281 - 01/30/18 12:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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I wonder the potency :pipesmoke:



Potency is comparable to wild caerulescens.  I tried 4g dry with my girlfriend(each). It was a good time.

I've picked pounds of these.  Stronger than cubes, probably 1:1.5 in terms of potency by weight.  Wild can have some variation in potency, weaker and stronger.


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    #24973345 - 02/07/18 10:51 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)


Great find what kind of spot? Soil? Average temperature at this period? Please</font>


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    #25102806 - 03/30/18 07:25 PM (11 months, 16 days ago)

Wish me luck.



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    #25102960 - 03/30/18 08:32 PM (11 months, 16 days ago)

Oh shit we got Ham onboard :grin:

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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25102972 - 03/30/18 08:44 PM (11 months, 16 days ago)

Yea man, that's just some cased WBS in half pint wide-mouths with grain jar lids.  Going to leave the lids on so everything can bunch up a bit, then once casing layer (50/50+ peat/verm/gypsum/hydrated lime) colonizes a little bit, going to bury jars in a bed of perlite inside of a mini, pre-constructed SGFC, and fruit them. 

I also g2g'ed some colonized WBS into a few quart jars of hydrated and sterilzed organic pine mulch supplemented with wheat bran.  Inoculated that mess a few days ago and it's already recovering strong.  It'll have to be until tomorrow night before I can take some pics and show ya, though.


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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: hamloaf]
    #25103417 - 03/31/18 01:09 AM (11 months, 16 days ago)

I've got a swab! I'll be sure to take notes before I put mine to agar


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    #25109201 - 04/02/18 07:58 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Here goes those jars of sterilized, supplemented, organic pine mulch 3 days out from inoculation.  :smile:

 


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    #25109206 - 04/02/18 07:59 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Those are looking good! Can't wait to see how they turn out


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    #25109224 - 04/02/18 08:07 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Plan is to spawn that mulch mix to straw/coir/vermiculite.  :yesnod:


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    #25109251 - 04/02/18 08:23 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

You gonna run a mono or go smaller?


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    #25109261 - 04/02/18 08:27 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Tray culture.


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    #25109263 - 04/02/18 08:28 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Nice!


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    #25109271 - 04/02/18 08:33 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Had I thought of it at the time, I would have used wide mouthed jars instead of small mouth, and gone for some bottle cultures.  :smile:


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    #25109281 - 04/02/18 08:37 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Right. That's what I think I may do with my swab just to try and get something out of it. Was the pine mulch something you picked up or prepared yourself?


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    #25109289 - 04/02/18 08:42 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Bought from a garden nursery.


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    #25109397 - 04/02/18 09:28 PM (11 months, 13 days ago)

Lme 1 spoon to 2 agar in 500ml.

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    #25116347 - 04/05/18 06:45 PM (11 months, 10 days ago)

Just before shake.



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    #25122871 - 04/08/18 12:18 PM (11 months, 8 days ago)

Psilocybe Caerulescens effort attempt#1.

   

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    #25122878 - 04/08/18 12:20 PM (11 months, 8 days ago)

Really excited to see how this turns out


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    #25128447 - 04/10/18 03:13 PM (11 months, 6 days ago)

Finally got these on Agar Lemur. Thanks.



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    #25141425 - 04/15/18 05:44 PM (11 months, 22 hours ago)

Had some little guys popping up.  Hopefully I can get more fruit from these.


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    #25145675 - 04/17/18 03:24 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

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    #25145733 - 04/17/18 03:52 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

I'm close to being able to put it to grains.


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    #25145736 - 04/17/18 03:53 PM (10 months, 30 days ago)

At some point, someone will stumble upon a culture that does fairly well, and then it is on. We just need this to be domesticated.


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    #25146999 - 04/18/18 01:20 AM (10 months, 29 days ago)

I think first we need to find out what it likes(conditions/sub) best an put together a solid tek with easily replicable results an then look for specimens for domestication for indoor cult that matches cubes productivity(possibly).


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    #25147368 - 04/18/18 07:52 AM (10 months, 29 days ago)

I will be looking for specimens from the very start. They should do just fine on compost and coir. I'm going to try spawning straight to coir 1st. If culture is good and clean it should work.


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    #25147484 - 04/18/18 09:50 AM (10 months, 29 days ago)

They grow in sunny locations, prefer muddy orangish brown soils with lots of woody debris.  That tells us they like lots of light.  As far as bulk substrate woody soils can be compensated for by using straw, and mulch. 

Opted to use pine mulch, because this species is found growing in abundance in Georgia where a lot of pine trees grow.  Straw will be added for texture, and encouragement of a woody debris like substrate.  Coir will cover brownish soil department (straw/coir).  They fruit well in the low to mid 70's, as well.


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    #25147492 - 04/18/18 09:55 AM (10 months, 29 days ago)

I cant wait to see what you get.


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    #25193388 - 05/09/18 02:19 PM (10 months, 8 days ago)


Three months later this quart is still pushing up fruit


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    #25208193 - 05/16/18 04:33 PM (10 months, 23 hours ago)

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    #25208566 - 05/16/18 07:31 PM (10 months, 20 hours ago)

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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: hamloaf]
    #25382152 - 08/11/18 07:38 PM (7 months, 6 days ago)

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Here goes those jars of sterilized, supplemented, organic pine mulch 3 days out from inoculation.  :smile:

 




Super glad to see that. Last year when I took some sprints and tried to inoculate WBS, I uploaded pics and was told it was just mold and to just throw everything outside cuz I probably have better luck. Wasn't very encouraging at all. But now, I have this jar of mycelium that has just been suspended and honey water for about a year and didn't know what to try and do next.



Obviously I need to get syringes. And I had been throwing around the idea of gathering red clay and pine straw and some mulch and mixing it all together and doing it that way. obviously I would pressure cook to sterilize before I put any of the mycelium in it.

I also wanted an opinion on the darker spots inside of it. Are these contaminants? Remember this is a Year's growth. the air was a few of them to start with, and now there's more, but none of them are any bigger than the ones you see and have not gotten bigger for a very long time.


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    #25634433 - 11/23/18 02:46 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Hey guys!  Wondering if any of you are still working on Caerulescens grows?  I have a few SB’s, 3 T3 clones and 2 T5’s from a wild print I took this summer.


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    #25679196 - 12/14/18 04:56 PM (3 months, 5 days ago)

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    #25679495 - 12/14/18 07:31 PM (3 months, 5 days ago)

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    #25682849 - 12/16/18 01:19 PM (3 months, 4 days ago)

Already inoculated two jars of rye seed with my clone LC and they’re caking up with myc! 

Here’s one syringe of the LC and pics of GS:



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    #25764405 - 01/24/19 12:45 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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    #25765507 - 01/24/19 03:43 PM (1 month, 26 days ago)

Unfortunately I didn’t have any luck producing fruits on my previous grows and turned my focus to cubes for a while.  Also had a stretch of contaminated batches of agar so I was dealing with mold and bacteria but now I’m back on track.:-)

Just getting back to trying my hand at Caerulescens again and have a new phenotype I came across in my experiments on agar that is looking promising. (I will post pics at the bottom)

This particular phenotype came from me experimenting with P. Caerulescens and it’s resistance to mold.  A while back I swabbed a contaminated plate with spores from a wild print I took this fall.  I let the plate grow until it was covered in green mold except for where the Caerulescens spores were germinating.  As I was hoping, the spores started to resist the mold and made a visible defensive barrier.



I very carefully took a small transfer from the center of the area the Caerulescens spores had germinated.



I was also experimenting with different types of agar during this time.  (Definitely too much going on at once so I’ve slowed down significantly).  This is T2 of the experiment on DFA.



Was looking like I had got away from the mold in just two xfers but it ended up coming back.  However I turned this into something I could learn more from and started a second experiment on agar. (Not going in depth on X2 at the moment, but I will).  This is the plate I took my T3’s from.



This is where I started to have issues with contaminated batches of agar which I believe was due to damaged caps on my media bottles and some of the agar recipes I was trying. 

I have since got new media bottles, went back to a standard LME agar recipe (7g agar -> 7g LME -> 400mL distilled water) and contamination issues appear to have stopped.  Unfortunately I don’t have pics of my T4’s and T5’s because I was focused on getting clean plates of agar.

That brings me to T6 which was on LME agar and is the phenotype I mentioned at the beginning of this post.

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Finally felt good enough to take it to grain and transferred to rye grass seed on 1/19.

GS jar as of 1/23 which is where I’m currently at. 



This phenotype is acting similar to how Panelaeous does on grain.  Still trying to figure out what substrate to try this time.  Right now I’m thinking about a mix of coir, hwfp and dried/sterilized red clay.

Other subs I’ve tried so far:  CV, straight coir, coir:hwfp and straight hwfp.

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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: Brain Bulb]
    #25770794 - 01/26/19 10:33 PM (1 month, 24 days ago)

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Other subs I’ve tried so far:  CV, straight coir, coir:hwfp and straight hwfp.





Does this mean you've tried fruiting with these substrates? What were your spawn rates, and generally your fruiting protocol?

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Re: Official Caerulescens cult thread♤ [Re: straightedge]
    #25859050 - 03/07/19 07:43 PM (15 days, 19 hours ago)

Im keep this thread alive yall...

Ps. caerulescens from Cherokee County GA
day 10, temps ~22C (20-24):



agar>GWLC>WBS
10cc GWLC : 4qt WBS




agar>GWLC> "mix"
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    #25859628 - 03/08/19 12:04 AM (15 days, 15 hours ago)

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Other subs I’ve tried so far:  CV, straight coir, coir:hwfp and straight hwfp.





Does this mean you've tried fruiting with these substrates? What were your spawn rates, and generally your fruiting protocol?

At what point are you marking it down as a fail?





Sorry just saw this.  Yes I have tried fruiting with these substrates with no luck.  I wasn’t as focused on conditions during my first few runs and I considered it a fail when the subs started showing signs of contamination which took a month or longer on a few. 

I have 3 new runs going now based off of @CaptainFuture’s Weilii tek that are looking good so far.  Have a grow log going so I’ll have better documentation going forward. —> https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25798110


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    #25859637 - 03/08/19 12:06 AM (15 days, 15 hours ago)

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Im keep this thread alive yall...

Ps. caerulescens from Cherokee County GA
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agar>GWLC>WBS
10cc GWLC : 4qt WBS




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    #25859722 - 03/08/19 12:59 AM (15 days, 14 hours ago)

Yeah BB, thank you! we're still workin on those, everything's on agar, but the only heat in my house is in my grow room, none in the lab, so everything moves slowwww brrr. we kinda just follow the flow of what looks ready to come out n play.
we should have some work from your samples comin out soon, I think we put the "summer" sample away for a later date, but working a few plates from the "winter" sample.

its just getting started ova here, we've now sourced several different samples of SE USA caerulescens, eventually we'll get a few all runnin at the same time.

we gon' be rrreal good friends, caeru n I, yes we are.

using the lc, we can test various substrates & conditions, compare results

working on a full proper grow log, will post in due time

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    #25863061 - 03/09/19 02:04 PM (14 days, 1 hour ago)

SB #1 - Day 13 since cased.  Casing is not colonizing but I’m starting to see growth on the surface.  Think it needs more FAE so I’m leaving the lid off for the day.  Saw a recent post from Roger Rabbit stating that myc grows around the casing.  Hopefully this is what I’m seeing.



Myco bag #1 - Day 11 since cased.  It’s had more FAE than SB#1.  Had a lot of moisture in the bottom of the bag so there have been a couple days, off and on, where I’ve left the bag open.



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    #25863609 - 03/09/19 06:11 PM (13 days, 21 hours ago)

Nice! what is the casing layer, cactus soil?

this wbs bag is bout colonized. we'll probably let it go another week or so to consolidate further, but then what idk. was thinking just case the grains, keep it simple, should get at least a few fruits right? but while drifting to sleep the other night, thought popped up to expand.

-should we case the grains and just go?
-should we prep some bulk sub, then
      -dump colonized grains into bulk sub?
      -dump bulk sub into colonized grains?

probably would just keep things in the bags if were going to expand, as moving both grain spawn and bulk subs to a new separate container is just adding an extra step for contams to enter.

it could be informative to see how just cased grains compare to bulk sub mix tho

we just dumped some oyster spawn into a bulk bag of coffee-straw, but it looks like it going green. so thats discouraging. i fear this place is just too old and moldy to open bags for transfers, can only get away with quick move precision of forceps & syringes.


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    #25866917 - 03/11/19 04:00 AM (12 days, 12 hours ago)

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Nice! what is the casing layer, cactus soil?

this wbs bag is bout colonized. we'll probably let it go another week or so to consolidate further, but then what idk. was thinking just case the grains, keep it simple, should get at least a few fruits right? but while drifting to sleep the other night, thought popped up to expand.

-should we case the grains and just go?
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      -dump colonized grains into bulk sub?
      -dump bulk sub into colonized grains?

probably would just keep things in the bags if were going to expand, as moving both grain spawn and bulk subs to a new separate container is just adding an extra step for contams to enter.

it could be informative to see how just cased grains compare to bulk sub mix tho

we just dumped some oyster spawn into a bulk bag of coffee-straw, but it looks like it going green. so thats discouraging. i fear this place is just too old and moldy to open bags for transfers, can only get away with quick move precision of forceps & syringes.





Thanks!  These are my best looking attempts so far but I have yet to produce any fruits. 

I’ve been doing spawn to bulk recently and so far so good.  I’ve tried several other methods with no luck.  Even just casing GS.  The Caeru myc seems to metabolize grain quickly if you don’t have something mixed with it.

Method used so far is agar ~ grain ~ bulk sub ~ casing.  Spawning in jars then transferring to myco bag to colonize sub, then transferring to SB.  Let it recover 2-3 days before casing.  Probably going to do an LC for the next batch.

Sub I’ve been using is 30% Straw, 30% straw pellets, 20% pine shavings, 20% hpoo PC’d for 4 hours at 15 psi. 

These two are cased with peat, verm and perlite with CaCO3 to bring the pH up to 7 - 7.5.  I cased my 2nd SB with Miracle Grow Potting Mix which already has additives to raise the pH.  Going to see how it performs and if it does well, use it going forward.


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    #25872191 - 03/13/19 07:11 PM (9 days, 21 hours ago)

Update 03-13-19:

Day 24 - SB#1 is starting to develop hyphal knots!  The sub seemed overly wet so I took the lid off and put it in my GH which is currently set at 75% RH.  This has allowed the moisture in the sub to evaporate but the casing has stayed wet.





MB #1 is showing the most growth of the 3 experiments and I noticed my first primodia forming!  Sub was looking too wet in the bag as well so I left it open in my GH for a few days.  Once the sub was dry and it looked like dry patches of the casing were showing I took it out, watered the dry patches with a syringe and re-clamped the bag.



SB #2 is coming along nicely but was cased about 9 days after SB#1 so it has some catching up to do.  I will say that I am seeing surface growth appear faster with the MG Potting Mix casing so far.


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    #25873373 - 03/14/19 10:17 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Just got a wild print today and pretty excited since I wasnt expecting to receive it. Hopefully I'll have something to show you guys later in the year.


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    #25874643 - 03/14/19 10:09 PM (8 days, 18 hours ago)

I've got a swab from the original poster lemur from about a year ago that I just found gonna put it to agar and see what I get tomorrow


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    #25874845 - 03/15/19 12:11 AM (8 days, 16 hours ago)

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Just got a wild print today and pretty excited since I wasnt expecting to receive it. Hopefully I'll have something to show you guys later in the year.




Nice!  That’s how I got started.  They started growing in my yard a couple years ago.  Very resistant to contaminants.  Even with wild prints I’ve never had a contaminated plate with initial inoculation, only if something was wrong with my agar and everything got contaminated.

This grow log from @CaptainFuture has been the most helpful for me.  Made some minor changes but don’t have any results yet.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10893108/page/1

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    #25874889 - 03/15/19 12:44 AM (8 days, 15 hours ago)

Nice one:thumbup:

I got some semperviva otg from CF too lol. I've had like 3 of 5 tubs contaminate so for though lol.


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Nice one:thumbup:

I got some semperviva otg from CF too lol. I've had like 3 of 5 tubs contaminate so for though lol.




Are you using rye grass seed, rye berries or oats?  Any time I’ve used RGS I have problems with contamination.  Oats have worked best for me.


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    #25875093 - 03/15/19 04:13 AM (8 days, 12 hours ago)

I'm out of oats, I can get a bag easy enough but it's a 15 minute drive and I dont have a car atm. I only have wbs. They're such a pain to get right :shrug: I find cold soaking for like 24 hrs works best for me (after picking all the shit out of it).

Only good thing about them is how small they are, oats are far easier to use though. Might have to make an effort to get some tomorrow.


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    #25880488 - 03/17/19 06:24 PM (5 days, 22 hours ago)

Im new so how does this compare to cube or pan? Im wondering which type would be grown from a medium of 

Natural Organic Brown Rice Flour
Vermiculite
Mineral Water
Liquid worm castings
Bee Pollen

I would be looking for visuals,something potent. Thanks in advance.


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    #25880527 - 03/17/19 06:44 PM (5 days, 21 hours ago)

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    #25882220 - 03/18/19 05:53 PM (4 days, 22 hours ago)

Is there any difference in strength between Caerulescens and Cubes?


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    #25882358 - 03/18/19 07:14 PM (4 days, 21 hours ago)

caerulescens are supposed to be a good 2-3x ++ the potency of cubensis, but I think it they can vary quite a bit
I’ve not yet tried them myself, that’s just what I read

I think caerulescens are considered either a secondary or tertiary decomposer of wood, not sure how well it does on fresh wood chips, but old wood, sawdust, straw, manure, pine needles, leaf compost are things it seems to prefer.

You could try brf/Verm/worms, but my first thought is it might like something more fibrous
But I think the whole point of this thread is that no one really has a solid recipe or tek down, to my knowledge- we’re all tryin to figure it out


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    #25882816 - 03/19/19 12:13 AM (4 days, 16 hours ago)

I haven’t taken a full therapeutic dose but I ate one shroom, probably 1/2g dry, as my microdose before going to work and I started tripping while talking to my supervisor.  Totally lost concentration, supervisor was talking but I wasn’t comprehending what he was saying.  Didn’t have full visuals but every had a halo around it that moved in and out with each breath.  I can only imagine taking 2-3g.  Hopefully soon! 

It didn’t last long as it was a small dose but for those 20 min I was a bit worried.  Was not expecting to trip on such a low dose.


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    #25888975 - 03/21/19 09:58 PM (1 day, 18 hours ago)

SB#1 has some chubby pins starting!




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    #25890060 - 03/22/19 01:39 PM (1 day, 2 hours ago)

Nice! Looking forward to your results, I've also been working on these.


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    #25891988 - 03/23/19 01:53 PM (2 hours, 35 minutes ago)

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Nice! Looking forward to your results, I've also been working on these.




Thanks!  Spotted some trich on the bottom of the box so I’m hoping the fruits reach maturity before the trich takes over...  On a side note there are quite a few more pins coming up and the first couple are getting plump!  Here are the best pins so far.




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