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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#24834589 - 12/08/17 06:42 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: Well people definitely weren't so vocal about it 10-15 years ago.
The media didn't talk about it too much either.
That post reminded me of this, for some reason.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: Shroomslip]
#24834595 - 12/08/17 06:44 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: You don't get to decide what I am.. That's called oppression.
Well, that's not free. I want to be free to see you how I think. I think you are really a frog dragon.
Should I have to call you what you decide? Or should I be free to call you what I see you as?
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: XUL]
#24834610 - 12/08/17 06:50 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's a fantasy
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: XUL]
#24834616 - 12/08/17 06:52 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Intersex is a sex, so there are 3 sexes.
Gender is different than sex, that's why they have different terms.
I think the concept of adhering to pronouns or face criminal liability is absurd though.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: MrBlueYoMind] 1
#24834700 - 12/08/17 07:58 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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MrBlueYoMind said:
I think the concept of adhering to pronouns or face criminal liability is absurd though.
I agree. I was once fairly convinced that bills like Canada's C16 would be a bad move, but I've been following Jordan Peterson fairly closely an so far nothing has happened to him. And honestly he is more full of shit than any SJW, it's so weird to see so many squares dig his straight up psychobabble.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: Bozko]
#24834702 - 12/08/17 07:59 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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10 bucks says OP is a Petersonian.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: Bozko]
#24834705 - 12/08/17 08:02 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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wtf is that?
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#24834709 - 12/08/17 08:08 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: wtf is that?
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: XUL]
#24834717 - 12/08/17 08:12 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, then I stand against it, along with the whole LGBTM commuunity. fuck you
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#24834724 - 12/08/17 08:15 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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On paper I think it is important to be very accurate about sex. When talking to someone, you can call them a inter-ethnic trans-male.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: XUL]
#24834749 - 12/08/17 08:39 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree.
Was I right about you liking JP?
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: Shroomslip]
#24834812 - 12/08/17 09:32 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: As a man born with a penis who now identifies as a teapot, yes there are more than 2 genders and sexes. I'm also offended teapot is not included in the poll. You will accept me and I will protest and whine until you do.
ok so if you identify as a teapot, i identify as a toaster...as in a Cylon. so there
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: Bozko]
#24834844 - 12/08/17 09:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bozko said:
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MrBlueYoMind said:
I think the concept of adhering to pronouns or face criminal liability is absurd though.
I agree. I was once fairly convinced that bills like Canada's C16 would be a bad move, but I've been following Jordan Peterson fairly closely an so far nothing has happened to him. And honestly he is more full of shit than any SJW, it's so weird to see so many squares dig his straight up psychobabble.
Yeah it seems like his ideas on law are well outside his area of expertise. I almost want to take one of his courses to get the full experience though.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: psi]
#24834997 - 12/08/17 11:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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It would be cool to take one of his courses. It's not that he isn't full of information, he is, but he presents his interpretation of things as fact and people just eat it up. I'm mostly talking about his bible interpretations. He also waffles on the definition of truth and its hard to watch.
He is kinda like a right-wing Terrance Mckenna to me. He speaks from the soul of conservative minded folk. Sometimes it's informative enough but it goes off course somewhere along the way. That or he just knows how to speak the language, he has probably sold a lot of books in the past few years.
Some people are very uncomfortable without the framework of western culture/religion and don't want to feel like it is losing it dominance. I don't even know where I fall on that one.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: XUL] 1
#24835167 - 12/09/17 03:54 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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XUL said: Yes, perhaps.
But I was excluding outlier medical cases.
Are you really asking us if "there are only two sexes, not including all the other ones"??
Yes....by your definition, there are only two sexes. By your definition.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: XUL]
#24835172 - 12/09/17 03:56 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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XUL said: On paper I think it is important to be very accurate about sex. When talking to someone, you can call them a inter-ethnic trans-male.
How often do you call your male friends "male"?
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: trendal]
#24835210 - 12/09/17 05:39 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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trendal said:
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XUL said: Yes, perhaps.
But I was excluding outlier medical cases.
Are you really asking us if "there are only two sexes, not including all the other ones"??
Yes....by your definition, there are only two sexes. By your definition.
Read the thread!
I am not repeating myself.
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: XUL] 1
#24835298 - 12/09/17 07:34 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did...what I said still stands
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: trendal] 1
#24835302 - 12/09/17 07:36 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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trendal said:
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XUL said: Yes, perhaps.
But I was excluding outlier medical cases.
Are you really asking us if "there are only two sexes, not including all the other ones"??
Yes....by your definition, there are only two sexes. By your definition.
Yeah the extra restrictions mean that the question in the thread title is no longer really what is being asked at all. In effect the part concerning sex is more like "Are the biological states that might be thought of as 'other sexes' relatively uncommon" and the answer is a completely uncontroversial yes. The title is a misrepresentation of what the poll really is asking, and the disconnect invalidates the results I think. I voted "Cast a blank vote to view the results of the poll".
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Re: Are there more than two sexes or genders? [Re: psi]
#24839224 - 12/11/17 08:44 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think the idea of 3 genders is pretty fine. I wouldn't say there are any more than that though. People who identify as male, female, or in between. The people who say they identify as a female 80% of the time(demi girl) don't make any sense to me. Seems like they're just nonbinary, but want to have extra attention.
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