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Humid colonisation chamber
    #24827719 - 12/05/17 01:28 PM (7 days, 2 hours ago)

My colonisation chamber is quite humid with water dripping from the sides.. will this prevent proper gas exchange? Getting micropore tape tomoz so currently still have the 2nd layer of foil on to cover the holes. So gas exchange won't be great at the minute anyway.


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24828138 - 12/05/17 04:57 PM (6 days, 22 hours ago)

Colonization chamber? What tek are you using? You mentioned a layer of foil, I’m assuming you mean foil over jars? If you’re using PF tek you should have a dry layer of vermiculite on top of your jars. This is your filter against contamination, so the foil isn’t doing anything besides making it harder for your cakes to breathe. You gotta elaborate on your procedure mate


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: TheMilkMan84]
    #24829243 - 12/06/17 07:01 AM (6 days, 8 hours ago)

Hey dude thanks for the reply. Well this tek says 'put in dark cupboard and wait' (no need to click 1st link thats all it says)... my dark cupboard is 50F.. way too low yes?

https://erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_mmgg.shtml

So I have put a pot in a waterbath that is 75F.. That would be this tek:

http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek#a5

It is winter here and the heating is on 5hours a day.. I hindsight, now I have some basic knowledge and can use my own brain about this. Surely the best, easiest method (and only marginally more expensive) is to directly heat the tank with a heat mat and thermostat??? This whole heat the water nonsense seems bonkers and a much harder way to achieve this


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24829248 - 12/06/17 07:04 AM (6 days, 8 hours ago)

P.s. as both those teks advised to keep the foil/lid on, that is what I have done. Micropore tape arriving today and will tape that over the holes in the foil where I inoculated.. Sorry, there is a lot of conflicting information out there so I am finding it really hard to judge at the minute. So your saying, take ALL foil off and leave it to the air? Surely that would contam despite the dry layer


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24829267 - 12/06/17 07:27 AM (6 days, 8 hours ago)

Edit :  Read This Please

Click the link in my signature also.

I would disregard those links you posted. They wasted a lot of my time and money.

Take the foil off. Inoculation holes are for gas exchange. Dry verm barrier keeps out contaminates. Put jars on a shelf. Light will not hurt it. In my opinion indirect sunlight helps.


Edited by Snakeye (12/06/17 08:09 AM)


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24829299 - 12/06/17 08:03 AM (6 days, 7 hours ago)

Thanks for the link... the only issue being they again say 'put on shelf to incubate'.. at 50F it will take weeks/never happen? I'm trying out the water bath and will see what happens. Just wish wish wish I bought a heatmat... checking this water bath every few hours and it just wont maintain anything like a stable temperature. nothing but stress


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24829307 - 12/06/17 08:14 AM (6 days, 7 hours ago)

Please read the information in the tek i provided.

I read and did all that stuff at first too.

96% wrong.

Edit : Im sorry you were misled.

You don't need any of that. Room temperature. Place the jars on a shelf. Thats it.

Edit: In my opinion if its not information off the shroomery i don't trust it. Even on here you have to search and read to find the most up to date teks.

Please Read.


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Edited by Snakeye (12/06/17 08:24 AM)


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Snakeye]
    #24829361 - 12/06/17 09:19 AM (6 days, 6 hours ago)

Screw it.. I just ordered some truffles online lol will see how they pan out but I'm not holding my breath. Cheers for the info. At this point in my life I dont have the energy to become an expert in this, I want them for medicinal reasons not a good time. It seems the more I read the less I know.. those oversimplistic teks should be taken down, I feel like my jars are destined to fail. But we shall see, it has all been a bodge so far


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1] * 1
    #24829510 - 12/06/17 11:12 AM (6 days, 4 hours ago)

Many people here cultivate for medicinal reasons as well. I agree with Snake, I’ve scoured the internet for good information, and this is the 1 place I know I can trust the info- although I do usually have to search a bit to find what I’m looking for.

The 1st link that snake sent you on the 2017 PF tek is an excellent resource. If you read that a few times you should have the basics of cultivating down. Sounds like what you’re doing is similar, you’re just using foil to replace the lid with holes in it.

I’d remove the outermost layer of foil so that you only have 1 layer of foil with the inoculation holes on there- the dry verm will protect your brf from contaminants and the holes will provide gas exchange.
Next time I’d opt for the jar lids instead of foil though :thumbup:


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24829785 - 12/06/17 01:41 PM (6 days, 1 hour ago)

:whathesaid:

Don't give up halfway there. They may still turn out great.

I know its frustrating but don't let that bad information deter you.

Same thing happened to me and now im collecting my supplies for agar work! :rockon:

I lost a lot of time and money but hell I've done worse in past relationships.

You got to get back up and try again. :thumbup:

Your in the right place if you want to get er dun.

Edit: When the going gets tuff. The tuff get going.


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Edited by Snakeye (12/06/17 01:49 PM)


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Snakeye]
    #24829805 - 12/06/17 01:59 PM (6 days, 1 hour ago)

Cheers guys. Just frustrated and wish I had ordered the truffles BEFORE fecking about with all this as I still have never tried them.. hopefully they arrive next week so will see how that goes..

Oh and also, in my new found knowledge :smile: . My advice to any brand new beginners would be get a pre prepared TRUFFLE kit. They said it should be ready to harvest in ONE day once it arrived... and has 100% record of getting through customs. That's some information I REALLY wish I knew before all this investment.. in terms of money it seemed really good value as well. £40ish, which I have more of less invested in spores, thermometers and heaters etc


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24829837 - 12/06/17 02:17 PM (6 days, 1 hour ago)

Im sorry dude. Don't let it worry you.

Don't give up on your jars and good luck with your truffles! :goodluck:


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Snakeye] * 1
    #24830095 - 12/06/17 04:28 PM (5 days, 23 hours ago)

It sounds like you're almost on the right path... just read the updated tek and follow that from here on out. :mushroom2:


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: John Coltrane]
    #24830253 - 12/06/17 05:57 PM (5 days, 21 hours ago)

I have faith! just follow everyone's advice and you'll be set!


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: tm4gs]
    #24830853 - 12/06/17 11:28 PM (5 days, 16 hours ago)

The PF tek is fool proof. Follow it to the letter. The first time I did it nearly 20 years ago was an instant success. I started with 4 jars, $10 spore syringe, and a bin with perlite.  That was with old information that said everything should be 85 degrees which is actually bad and I still had more success than failure. Don't give up on your work yet. Patience is key!


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Shroomymancer]
    #24831354 - 12/07/17 08:43 AM (5 days, 6 hours ago)

Cheers guys, 3 days in at 80F (trying to get it lower, really shitty aquarium heater that keeps dropping to 70F so assuming 80F is better?). Also, no signs of life... how long before I am worried?


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24831415 - 12/07/17 09:49 AM (5 days, 5 hours ago)

I am down on my knees.

Begging you to just put them on a shelf...

Away from that damn heater...:frown:


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Snakeye]
    #24831437 - 12/07/17 10:00 AM (5 days, 5 hours ago)

Lol ok done.. but the temp is 69.7F on the shelf.. I am just a little worried that is too low. Also, of the 4 jars I have I only want one jar to flush and ideally as quickly as possible because I only want to microdose. I mean ONE mushroom would be enough for me for now. Only want to take 0.2g every 4 days.. but anyway, I have truffles on the way so if this fails, it fails. Thanks for the advice again :smile:


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Broken1]
    #24831448 - 12/07/17 10:06 AM (5 days, 5 hours ago)

Ok! *wipes sweat* Your a good man. :thumbup:

Ok now...

I need you to build this Please?

For the mycelium!

Edit : We don't grow one mushroom in these here parts.


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Re: Humid colonisation chamber [Re: Snakeye]
    #24831491 - 12/07/17 10:38 AM (5 days, 4 hours ago)

Cheers again.. just read another post. Apparently indirect sunlight helps it develop a circadian rhythm during colonisation. More info missing from those basic teks I had, I just assumed total darkness. *shuts curtains and returns to computer* *reads posts* *jumps back up and reopens curtains*

Ok I have a smaller tub in mind but only 4 cakes to put in it but should be fine. Will drill and set that up tomoz :smile: Christ this is all far simpler than it was made out in the beginning.

No mention of temperature for that SGFC tek tho.. guessing 70F is ok but ideally higher?


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