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No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms
    #24830859 - 12/06/17 11:31 PM (5 days, 15 hours ago)

No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms

Josh Sweigart Staff Writer
1:05 p.m Monday, Dec. 4, 2017 Crime


People who register with the state of Ohio to legally use medical marijuana will be prohibited from possessing firearms under federal law, according to guidance released by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

In an open letter to federally licensed firearms dealers, the ATF advised in 2011 that marijuana is still a Schedule I controlled substance under federal law so any use of the drug is unlawful, and gun dealers are prohibited from providing guns or ammo to anyone they have cause to believe uses pot.

“There are no exceptions in federal law for marijuana purportedly used for medicinal purposes, even if such is sanctioned by state law,” the memo says.


The law applies to more than just buying guns. The ATF letter says marijuana users are prohibited from “shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition.”

Anyone applying to purchase a gun from a licensed dealer must sign a form attesting he or she is not “an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance.”

“Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside,” the form notes.

Lying on the form is a felony under federal law, punishable with up to 10 years in prison.

“There is definitely a conflict between the state laws and the federal laws,” said Joe Eaton, southwest Ohio spokesman for the Buckeye Firearms Association.

It’s not clear how to reconcile that conflict, he said, “We are confused as everyone else at this point.”

When Ohio’s medical marijuana program becomes operational in September 2018, Ohioans will be able to register to use cannabis if they have a recommendation from a physician saying they have one of 21 qualifying conditions.

Industry analysts have estimated as many of 24 percent of the state’s population – or about 2.8 million Ohioans – have a qualifying condition.

The conflict between federal firearms laws and state cannabis laws has flared up on other states.

In Hawaii, Honolulu police last month told residents who had medical marijuana cards they have 30 days to turn in their firearms to authorities, according to reports in the Honolulu Star Advertiser.

The Associated Press reports that a federal circuit court of appeals ruling on a case out of Nevada found that the federal ban on the sale of guns to medical marijuana users doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime--law/guns-ohio-medical-marijuana-users-won-able-have-firearms/th1VxfawP7LNhFikF34ZTO/


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: D.M.T]
    #24830864 - 12/06/17 11:34 PM (5 days, 15 hours ago)

guns don't kill, marijuana kills.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: 420_psychonaut]
    #24830994 - 12/07/17 01:02 AM (5 days, 14 hours ago)

Guns don't kill, Americans do.  :shrug:

Still pretty stupid though.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: chibiabos]
    #24831064 - 12/07/17 02:03 AM (5 days, 13 hours ago)

So you can buy a gun if you are on the no fly list.

But you can't buy a gun if you use medical marijuana?

makes sense :facepalm:


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #24831276 - 12/07/17 06:54 AM (5 days, 8 hours ago)

I'm no really a gun guy.  But it seems the feds think it's ok to be all hopped up on diluided, oxycontin and amphetamines with guns but not weed.  Not to mention booze.

Can't even think of all the times alcohol and guns cause problems.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24831303 - 12/07/17 07:43 AM (5 days, 7 hours ago)

This assumes marijuana users like guns in the first place.

BUT HEY its Ohio.

They have an interesting breed down there, like in cincinnati. The hybrid hippie/redneck. Also i think some of the best bud i ever found was actual some Northern Kentucky stuff (i am Not from that area, i just happened to get fire there beating most dispensary LA buds)

I like the lifestyle of (some) of those people. Seems chill. Allloootttt of drinking compared to what im used to

They love their weed and they love their guns. I dunno about deep ohio just cincinnati.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: Fractal420]
    #24831399 - 12/07/17 09:39 AM (5 days, 5 hours ago)

Cincinnatis a bit different than the rest of ohio, the south really bleeds into the culture down there.

This whole no guns thing with medical marijuana is not suprising. There is no state that allows you to have guns and medical marijuana, feseral governament already released multiple statements prohibiting gun ownership with medical marijuana. Most states seem to be following at least that.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: puff4200]
    #24831426 - 12/07/17 09:54 AM (5 days, 5 hours ago)

growers practically need guns most of the time. out in the woods in the middleof nowhere w bear n big cats plus the constant threat of rippers. i always kept a heater on the farm.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: puff4200]
    #24831741 - 12/07/17 01:13 PM (5 days, 2 hours ago)

A very interesting breed.Cincinnati is the serial Killer capital of the USA, with countless  fun guys, fondling their booze and guns.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: gandalfe]
    #24832336 - 12/07/17 05:41 PM (4 days, 21 hours ago)

Ohio is practically Indiana.




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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: D.M.T]
    #24832623 - 12/07/17 08:05 PM (4 days, 19 hours ago)

Yet alcohol and guns are ok. just more backwards thinking


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: DrRedBush]
    #24832633 - 12/07/17 08:14 PM (4 days, 19 hours ago)

These are the WORST statements big brother makes.
Yea guys
It's OK to have guns as long as you only RECREATIONALLY use alcohol or cannabis lmao
Or are a blatant liar.
What a fucking joke. :rofl:
Teach honesty and compassion
Not control and hypocrisy.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: rhizoRider]
    #24832638 - 12/07/17 08:16 PM (4 days, 19 hours ago)

Btw our fathers of "government" allowed the citizens to bear arms
Incase they needed an ass kicking.
Gotta love the tech world nowadays. 
Paranoia is Digitized :shocked:


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: rhizoRider]
    #24832705 - 12/07/17 09:03 PM (4 days, 18 hours ago)

I've visited sites where these people are openly called drug addicts
On this one website I mentioned people there read the title of the article and it gets re-posted as only the title of the article and the sub-header and these bigots go all out.
It's really scary stuff. Hint: mostly trumpers


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: Konyap]
    #24835228 - 12/09/17 08:08 AM (3 days, 7 hours ago)

Yep, lot's and lot's of 'Trump necks' in Ohio!

There is a republican belief not yet stated that mj users are anti-Government.  A sentiment that goes back to the 1960s.

Apparently if you use cannabis and have free will and don't agree totally with the Republican establishment, your anti Govt.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: Morel Guy]
    #24836978 - 12/10/17 04:02 AM (2 days, 11 hours ago)

Pot is generally accepted in cincy it seems to me. Very much so in my experience

And drinking hard liquor with every meal lol. Almost russian style

Actually russians can usually hold their liquor and know when to stop (for the individual, before they get sick)


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: DrRedBush]
    #24839240 - 12/11/17 10:53 AM (1 day, 4 hours ago)

Quote:

Morel Guy said:
Can't even think of all the times alcohol and guns cause problems.




I know exactly the amount ov times a substance like alcohol or a tool like a gun has caused problems itself.... zero.


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Yet alcohol and guns are ok. just more backwards thinking




A human should be able to use a substance or a tool to hir own discretion.  It is backwards thinking to forfeit individual choice to paranoid potentials any time.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: lavod]
    #24840661 - 12/12/17 12:00 AM (15 hours, 29 minutes ago)

I have never once heard of anyone, political, being perfectly harmless, because, then, forced participation would not be practical.

Disarmament is used against their rivals, only.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: durian_2008]
    #24841379 - 12/12/17 08:35 AM (6 hours, 55 minutes ago)

Pretty sure the 2nd amendment doesnt directly give the right to bear arms by individuals.

seems to be how gun lovers interpret it

"2nd amendment! Fuck yeah!"

And Theres that famous All in the Family episode where they debate what it really means. I really dont think it means "you there, yes, you! Ever wanted a gun? Of course you have! Well did you know your founding fathers wrote in the consitution that youll always be able to be armed, so that the federal government can be kept in check. Lock n load!"

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" - that could mean the police, and likely does. However. If the police ever become a true enemy of the people (ahem) and they keep systemically (ahem) not protecting, i guess it allows the foundation of another militia to protect from the original federal govt if so needed. If this was done, it would be considered a scary fringe terror group. Reminds me of like BritainFirst or some shit.


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Re: No guns: Ohio’s medical marijuana users won’t be able to have firearms [Re: Fractal420]
    #24841688 - 12/12/17 01:07 PM (2 hours, 22 minutes ago)

Quote:

lavod said:
I know exactly the amount ov times a substance like alcohol or a tool like a gun has caused problems itself.... zero.







Correct!  But there are many crazy people who can't handle the responsibility. 


Quote:

Fractal420 said:
Pretty sure the 2nd amendment doesnt directly give the right to bear arms by individuals.

seems to be how gun lovers interpret it

"2nd amendment! Fuck yeah!"





The supreme court has ruled that it does, perhaps incorrectly.


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