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Martianman420
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Yesum]
#24829128 - 12/06/17 12:33 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Martianman420 said: please excuse the rust .. first tray
rock on brother. I've used what looks to be the same exact tray before. Now I use them for clutter. Rings,lids,etc.
Lol. Watch out. Your mycelium with digest that fucker.
haha thanks dude. i should have lined it with something. or used something else. but yeah i now know
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Buddha19er
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Yesum]
#24829134 - 12/06/17 12:44 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't even know there was a APE uncut. Did you create this masterpiece or is it peer to peer or vendor bought.
I got it during The Tribes "Sporesplosion 2017". Check the marketplace, ya might be able to find one. When mine grow out I can try to make ya a swab. I've never taken a swab, and I'm Kinda looking forward to it. On another note though, I don't have a flow hood. So I can't guarantee you won't have some cleaning.
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Buddha19er]
#24829144 - 12/06/17 01:02 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Found these jars at a flea market earlier today. Bought 4 boxes of 12. Good buy Glad Rounds. They work pretty, and use regular mouth lids. So gonna be a late night putting filters on 48 lids.
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Yesum
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Buddha19er]
#24829317 - 12/06/17 06:21 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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this thing is so thick. I need to get a blender bottle so I can pour it. I don't like trying to aspirate it out with a syringe.
And here's that APE plate I was speaking of. You can see where I took from. But there's still a little bit there that's super rhizomorphic.
And here's a jar of APE colonizing. Slowly too I might add. Compared to my PESH clones inoculated in the same day.
PESH clone: And here's a good looking jar of PE. I've yet to fruit these bitches. Something always seems to go wrong. Usually green pre first flush. But I'm getting her figured out I think. Hopefully [url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/17-49/256704417-IMG_20171206_073526093_HDR.jpg][/u
I hate taking care of this "army"!!! I gotta feed them. I gotta bath them. I gotta clean up after them too even. lol. Sorry I'm board
Ok last one I suppose. Back to cleaning jars. Fuckers have soaked long enough....very first hyphal knotting on one of the lay/mix trays.
Edited by Yesum (12/06/17 05:14 PM)
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Yesum]
#24831017 - 12/06/17 11:28 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just bought some coco coir, gypsum, and hydrated lime. Hopefully that will help me lock in my bulk sub so I can finally start getting some fruits out of these tubs. I'm prepping some no pour agar jars right now. First time ever working with agar. Going to be attempting to collect samples of mycorrhizae from a native grass that we are container growing in my schools greenhouse. Anyone have experience collecting mycorrhizae to agar? Any tips? I imagine I will have to do a lot of transfers.
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Acaterpillar]
#24831128 - 12/07/17 01:00 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's quiet over here tonight.
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stareatclouds
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Yesum]
#24831135 - 12/07/17 01:08 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm building a few APE tubs and running a 60 minute cycle on some jars that went green on me. I've inoculated over 120 jars in the past month and 20+ bags and only have about 10 so far that contaminated, so not bad.
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Variegated
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Im at work or id be making grain jars right now..spawned a bunch of tubs the last few days and i feel like im slacking if there are to many empty jars
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Yesum
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Variegated]
#24831145 - 12/07/17 01:26 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cleaning the army. Bastards. Seriously considering going on unicorns site and buying 1000. Lol I go through this about once a month. This feeling of. Fuck. I gotta start using bags. But then they get all cleaned up. And the over whelming urhe to buy bags passes. Hopefully some day. I'll pull the trigger. And just buy them.
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Yesum
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stareatclouds said: I'm building a few APE tubs and running a 60 minute cycle on some jars that went green on me. I've inoculated over 120 jars in the past month and 20+ bags and only have about 10 so far that contaminated, so not bad.
That's definitely really good. Where it should be probably. Percentage wise.
When I was only doing 50 jars at a time. It was pretty easy to get 100% it wasn't until I scaled up that I started seeing shittier numbers.
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: TheBlackCat]
#24831312 - 12/07/17 06:00 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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TheBlackCat said: Yeah. You shouldn't save old coir. I left some coir inside the container after scooping some out for a few days and it grew fuzzy white stuff. Better to just pressure cook it and use it for oysters or something.
Absolutely. When moistened if its not at least pasteurized, totally gets white stuff. People like to argue that it doesnt or some shit. But in fruiting conditions, it sure sure does. For me heat treatment so far is not enough for me to be comfortable that its clean. So i go the extra step and pasteurize in jars
If it works for you though (just in general for alot of shroomers), awesome!
PS: ONLY 50 jars at a time - lucky! Lol. Must be alot of work. I like to work with just a tub or two at a time, and small ones (relatively). Like 3-4 qt spawn to 1.5 CVG ratio
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Edited by Fractal420 (12/07/17 06:06 AM)
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Fractal420]
#24831369 - 12/07/17 07:03 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lucky. Maybe. Demanding. Absolutely!!
I only run about 200 jars now. On a rotating cycle. Try to anyways.
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Fractal420]
#24831404 - 12/07/17 07:42 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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TheBlackCat said: Yeah. You shouldn't save old coir. I left some coir inside the container after scooping some out for a few days and it grew fuzzy white stuff. Better to just pressure cook it and use it for oysters or something.
Absolutely. When moistened if its not at least pasteurized, totally gets white stuff. People like to argue that it doesnt or some shit. But in fruiting conditions, it sure sure does. For me heat treatment so far is not enough for me to be comfortable that its clean. So i go the extra step and pasteurize in jars
If it works for you though (just in general for alot of shroomers), awesome!
PS: ONLY 50 jars at a time - lucky! Lol. Must be alot of work. I like to work with just a tub or two at a time, and small ones (relatively). Like 3-4 qt spawn to 1.5 CVG ratio
How do you promote certain organism inside the coir (pasteurization) when the coir doesnt contain any organisms to begin with? Also I never see mold my casing layers ever, not on my expanded coir either that just sits in a tub in room temp for a long time. Even the coir I sterilize and the coir I expand with cold water, neither of them attracted any kind of mold ever. But honestly, what is the point of pasteurizing coir, why do you do it? (im not trying to be a prick im really curious to why you go trough the trouble of pasteurizing coir when the info i gathered says that its absolutely not necessary) someone of us must have the wrong info i just want to find out if its me
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Mateja] 1
#24831473 - 12/07/17 08:27 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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going the extra step and pasteurizing coir doesnt make any sense. its coir. you can cold hydrate and it still wont mold. its been proven time and time again that pasteurizing is a huge waste of time and effort with coir(might be good practice but thats it)
an actual extra step would be to sterilize the coir. dont forget though, coco bricks are made under compression at like 700F. id imagine pasteurizing coir will be around just as long as heat kills actives, colonizing in the dark is good, and fanning.
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: mushboy] 1
#24831494 - 12/07/17 08:39 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Coir definitely goes bad if sealed up and left at room temp. Not mold but with bacteria, i never let it go past two weeks before finishing off a batch but I left some in a bucket for a month in the closet and pulled it out to spawn a shoebox, it looked and smelled fine but as soon as I dug my (thankfully gloved) hand into the sub it unleashed a smell worse than 1,000 wet hobos
Even my dogs freaked out and ran to the back door, poor guys noses got fucked
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: Germs]
#24831498 - 12/07/17 08:42 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive had coir go bad before. ive also left a untouched bucket tekked batch for a month. it looked and smelled fine.
i didnt spawn with it though. too paranoid so i used it in my tomato plants potting soil mix. nice tomatoes too.
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: mushboy]
#24831746 - 12/07/17 11:15 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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we're gonna find out any day though if it was the coir or just 1 bad jar lol. I have a shoebox I just put into fruiting and a mini mono still colonizing all using the same coir batch that sat for 3 weeks. Yea i'm gonna be butthurt if I lose 5 jars over this but whatever I still have enough to last me for 2 years anyway. I want enough to last a decade though....
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: PreparationH]
#24832088 - 12/07/17 01:51 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dumped my coir that was sitting in a bucket for about a month, might have been able to use it but I didn't want to risk it plus I would've had half a brick left still after spawning my last cube jars...I wonder how my mini monos are doing. I haven't checked them since I spawned em 2 or 3 days ago.
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Re: The "Midnight Mycology" Thread. [Re: 00Burnout]
#24832147 - 12/07/17 02:20 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've used like 3 months old coir with no issues. It's not a guarantee either way. For what it's worth, I leave mine in HD painter's buckets with the lid snapped on completely if I know I won't be using it for a while.
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And there are also people who see seedlings sprout from untreated coir; suffice it to say one coir isn't the other. We will never know because there is no 1 answer. You could prove it time and time again, and the next guy disproves you with a different brand
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