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Offlineashfiken
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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Stonehenge]
    #24828721 - 12/05/17 07:47 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Most likely still,
Cryptokitties wreaking havoc...

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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: ashfiken]
    #24829109 - 12/06/17 12:01 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Just wondering what people think of 'restricted country' citizens participating in ICOs.

I am somewhat interested in Spectre, which has an ICO for the next few days, however they are very clear that US participants are not allowed. I dont want to get them (or myself) into trouble, but at the same time, there are no real laws that say my participation in cryptos is illegal.

Anyone have an idea what could happen? No VPN - just I give them ETH and they give me coins. Could they take them back?


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Stonehenge]
    #24829263 - 12/06/17 05:25 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah IOTA is doing really well this week! It's already up over 100% since I bought it!


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: trendal]
    #24829465 - 12/06/17 08:48 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I still can't find iota I guess I'm missing out. I don't what's up with etherum not really doing anything even though bitcoins shooting up.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Psyche delics]
    #24829622 - 12/06/17 10:19 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Bitcoin has those front running/mainstream legs that keep stretching.
Ethereum is a newer tech still under wraps as far as mainstream is concerned.
And it just showed off how bogged it gets with cryptokitty action... So until it scales and shows capability for what we all invested in -(d)apps that wil work largely and globally on chain..
Be patient I believe the gains will flood into ether , maybe see more of that happening once this bubble for BTC pops.
Future trading could very well cause a broken leg for btc
So exciting we will see
I like monero right now. Music artists taking it for christmas

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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: ashfiken]
    #24829766 - 12/06/17 11:27 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

IOTA looks fucking great. they've overtaken ETH on volume so quickly.

Yeah Monero looks good, I managed to get a little before it shot up.

Any opinions on EOS, XRP and XLM?


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tipote]
    #24829774 - 12/06/17 11:33 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I don't get what's with the cryptokitties. But I can only get iota through Bitcoin think it's worth the trade?


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Psyche delics]
    #24829819 - 12/06/17 12:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

bitfinex trades IOTA in USD, ETH and BTC.

Personally I'd hold onto your BTC and use ETH or USD instead


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tipote]
    #24829861 - 12/06/17 12:27 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Bitfinex doesn't trade to US customers


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Psyche delics]
    #24829868 - 12/06/17 12:28 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Does Binance? Thats the only other place I can see


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Tipote]
    #24829884 - 12/06/17 12:36 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, binance does. I'm thinking of buying 1 btc worth of iota. It and btc went up about the same amount since yesterday but iota could double in a month and btc is a steady climber but you never know. If it goes to 400 I make bank


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Stonehenge]
    #24829957 - 12/06/17 01:08 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Ethereum's screwing me over.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Stonehenge]
    #24830240 - 12/06/17 03:52 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Iota seems to be a good choice. And EOS.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: myceliups]
    #24830816 - 12/06/17 09:13 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Do you guys think cryptocurrencies could collapse themselves? Too many on the market and all the alts and Bitcoin become worth less?


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Psyche delics]
    #24830860 - 12/06/17 09:32 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Oh for sure. I hope so. Survival of the fittest and luckiest, we could use a good trimming on all the shitcoins and copy-cats.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: Psyche delics]
    #24830898 - 12/06/17 09:54 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you guys think cryptocurrencies could collapse themselves? Too many on the market and all the alts and Bitcoin become worth less?




Without question.  Anything requiring dedicated energy and willful intent from human beings can collapse.  If miners and nodes abandon a project because there are better alternatives, the coins/tokens associated with that project will become worthless.  Frankly, it should be a clear possibility that anything and everything can potentially collapse.  But I digress...

There is a tremendous amount of excitement surrounding the crypto sector, it's just peaking its head into the mainstream and people are anxious to get involved in ideas, most without any substantive trial proving their worth or need.  That is all well and dandy, and a big part of what drives innovation.  But just as this flocking to every newfangled approach distributed ledger technology may allow, most early proposals will fail to prove themselves in useful/practical application.

Thus the importance of diversification in conjunction with diligent research and keeping up to date with the projects that make the most sense to you.  As with any investment, you can get lucky, but if you have the discipline to stay on top of your money by knowing exactly why you are putting it where you are, and are able to identify when your thesis has a high or low probability of success, you will be able to stack the odds in your favor.  Nevertheless, losses are a part of investing.  Only fools and charlatans can claim to know with certainty what is going to work and when.  The rest of us mere mortals must focus on risk management, understanding our investment timeframe, our tolerance for risk, the specific reasons we are allocating money in the places we choose, and when our thesis requires adjustment.  This can only be achieved through study and constant review.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: geokills]
    #24839725 - 12/11/17 02:38 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

For all the fuss about the CBOE bitcoin futures, it's really been a smooth rollout with minimal impact on the market. Volume could rightfully be referred to as abysmal, and given the ~8.5% premium (around $1400) for the front month contract (with only slightly higher premiums going out to the latest March expiry) at present, I'm not terribly surprised. Given the volatility of the underlying, I wouldn't want to commit myself to such a short term contract at such a high premium.

Levering up on a long position at the 30% margin requirement on the March contracts (which sport an ~11% premium) would be a bit more attractive, but I wouldn't want to enter a position like this unless I saw a significant short term pullback, and frankly I'd rather just play with real bitcoins, at least until volume picks up, because that 11% premium is bound to balloon amidst any major selloff, given the lack of participants.  Selling the front month instrument as part of a covered call position makes a bit more sense, but even then, 8.5% for a month long wait on an issue that has proven its ability to move 20% inside of a day doesn't appear all that attractive from a risk/reward perspective either.

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In other news, YouNow's presale is on for their PROPS token.  Presale buyers are entitled to a 20% bonus allocation.  I think this one has potential, click here to read a balanced review of the proposition.  Having an already profitable enterprise with traditional investors on board, alongside a six year old working product to build out from is a big plus.  The token incentive for creators to hold their PROPS in order to boost their exposure on the video platform is a nice quasi-deflationary aspect of the system (one of the things I liked about OmegaOne, in that hoarding tokens provides additional utility to participants).

Granted, their video platform has not been growing wildly in the face of Instagram Stories and other live streaming offerings by the major platforms, but it still has an active community of millions and I think the PROPS structure will be attractive to people who hate ADs, a group which I believe is rather large.  Accredited investors can participate via CoinList, unfortuantely the non-accredited presale already took place this morning via Republic.co and hit its maximum engagement in less than an hour and after crashing their website several times.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: geokills]
    #24839750 - 12/11/17 02:54 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Geo, what do you think of this company?

https://www.hiveblockchain.com/

I think it looks VERY promising.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: qman]
    #24840463 - 12/11/17 08:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

They appear to be a mining center running out of Iceland.  They may do a great job, but there's too many variables for me to trust custody of my funds to an operation like that.  For example, how effective do they allocate their resources when mining difficulty adjusts for the currencies they are mining?  How is their sell side operation handled?  What about security of assets?  Frankly, their (apparently paid) partner Genesis Mining is the one I'd rather invest in.  They sell mining contracts to retail investors, thus guaranteeing themselves a profit slice regardless of what their mining operation actually produces in the way of crypto assets.

I don't know, I just don't want to get too cute with it... and investing in someone else's mining operation is a bit too far removed for me.  Much rather allocate an amount I am comfortable with and diversify through a handful of assets that appeal to me.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: A Discussion on Bitcoin, Ethereum and Related Projects [Re: geokills]
    #24840726 - 12/11/17 10:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Where do you guys buy iota?

Am I allowed to ask that? :uhoh:

edit: ...aaand I just saw the answer to that question a few posts up. whoops

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