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Is acid a "hard" drug?
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me and a friend are thinking of tripping on acid but I really don't know quite what to expect. I heard this was a major drug but is it along the same lines as like heroin? Sorry if I sound like such a newbie but this will be my first hallucgenic drug and i want to be prepared. :yesnod:

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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Acid is considered a "hard" drug by mainstream society. This mainstream society is also heavily influenced by government propaganda and television.

My personal opinion is that hallucinogenic drugs containing the indole ring structure are the softest kind of drug you can take on your body and mind.

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
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hard drugs = addiction
lsd = addicted to life and love


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Dankman]
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maybe u guys can help me clear up a myth about lsd. when i was a young kid, i would listen to love line on the radio. some people would call up saying that they used to take LSD, and now they see trails on fast moving objects, while sober.

they were told that they got perminent brain damage from acid. is this true?

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: shrewmer]
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Yes that is true. It's called HPPD and I think if you did enough of it at one time, (abused its purpose, or took it before your brain was all done growing) - this could happen. A good friend of mine got HPPD from shrooms in middle school. He still has it and that was 8 years ago. Some chemicals don't work with some people.

Acid is NOT a hard drug however. Psychedelics are not classifiable as hard or soft drugs, they are just that, psychedelicssss. You don't do them to get high like you would take E or snort a line, you do them because you're crazy and you want to open up the doors in your head and go for a ride.

Don't worry so much about the trails thing. Some people get distortion afterwards but it almost always wears off. HPPD is rare case.

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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Michaclem15- i would recomend starting wit a low dose, one hit, or maybee a half a dose depending on the lsd's strength. acid was the first halucinegn that i ever tried, and i can say it has changed my life for the better in many ways.
it is not like heroin at all.
heroin in my opinion is one of those nasty drugs i will never try. it makes monsters out of people. while lsd makes people out of monsters. they are actually in my opinion oposites. all psychadelics are wonderful sacred things. but honestly there is so little i can tell you, incomparison to what the expierence can show you.
peace to you michaelcm15

shrewmer-
no there is no brain damage that occours from lsd use. there is a condition that is called HPPD. basically some people see tracers, and halucinations after the drug wears off. this is not a very common problem.
search google for hppd and itll tell you alot about it.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: ZippoZ]
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There is no brain damage but your brain is most definetly changed. It is not like shrooms.

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: ZippoZ]
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Just curious Zippoz, ever try codiene, perks or opiated hash? Heroin, if used responsibly, does not make monsters.I will never go back to IV, but I could use dope every day if the price was right, =free! Same as weed. Acid,on the other hand is a powerful tool for inner exploration.I agree that newbees should start with a low dose{as with any drug} but try eating acid every day! I have friends dead from heroin, and friends total nut-cased from too much acid. {usually 10 hit+ trips} The key I think is moderation.


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: vinsue]
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Yeah, I think the ~risk~ for addiction and how tough it is on your body are criteria for "hard drugs". So this would make hard drugs:
-methamphetamine
-cocaine
-heroin
(I'm not saying this is it -- I'm guessing)
Thoughts?


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I didn't sell out-
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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: valour]
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Agreed, and in that descending order.Bad meth abuse definitely can make monsters. I use to be one 22 years ago


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  Have You Rated Ythans Mom Yet ?? ... :taser:  ... HERE'S HOW ... (be nice) .  :mod: ... :peace:

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
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ledzepln86 said:
Acid is considered a "hard" drug by mainstream society. This mainstream society is also heavily influenced by government propaganda and television.

My personal opinion is that hallucinogenic drugs containing the indole ring structure are the softest kind of drug you can take on your body and mind.


:thumbup: superb post,you're totally right


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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Intense, yes. Hard, no.

I think I had the same concept of acid as you did at one point way back when I was 17. I heard a lot about it and how it was this hardcore drug that ranked up there with coke and heroine. I knew a lot about coke a herorine and knew they were drugs I wanted to avoid, and as long as acid ranked up there with them I knew I should avoid acid too. As I got a little older I started to do a lot of research, which I highly suggest you do. You'll find that acid is realitivly harmless to you physically and mentally. But, there are always exceptions to that rule.


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: djd586]
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This might b just a little off topic but i did not feel it is somthing that is needed for a new post. I have done shrooms many times and enjoy them very much but i hae never had the chance to try acid since it is very hard to find in my area, I was just wonder if the high from acid is very much like shrooms.

Do you get a body high from acid or is it mostly all in the head?

Do you build a tollerence from acid like you do from shrooms?

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: fliped]
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They're similar but very different at the same time. Yes you get a body high from acid and yes you build up a tolerance.


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: djd586]
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Thanks a lot djd586

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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Some consider LSD, Mushrooms, Mescaline as a basis for religion, god, faith, love, inspriation, etc... Entire cultures have found religion with Psychedelic mushrooms and mescaline (Peyote for example). LSD also. There are people that believe so heavily in the positive aspects of LSD, and its ability to change society, even the world for the better, that they would die for it. So, in my opinion, LSD is not a hard drug, not even a drug at all. More of a tool used to explore ones self and surroundings.


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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I don't consider LSD a hard drug at all, niether do i with shrooms or weed, there all on the same page for me.


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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LSD can be a wonderful blessing if not abused. Don't be afraid of experiencing such an experience. It has changed many lifes very positively.


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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hppd links in my signiture.

"Don't be afraid of experiencing such an experience. It has changed many lifes very positively. "

i know a few people whod beg to differ, 1 trip, 1lifetime tripping :laugh:

but ya lsd is the best chemical ever created imo


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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LSD is no more a "hard" drug than mushrooms are. The danger is equal.


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: LCid]
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Lets remember that LSD was not "created" but discovered. The molecule was allways there sitting peacefully in Ergot.

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: psikooz]
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i like that :wink:


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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
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"Just curious Zippoz, ever try codiene"--vinsue

yeah i almost fucking killed myself, after drinking some codine cough suryp and smoking a whole bunch of weed in an attempt to take care of a tooth ache that i had.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: Is acid a "hard" drug? [Re: ZippoZ]
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codiene blows, my doc gave me that shit twice and the second time i threw it out infront of him.. gives me tha cramps.... and ya cant shit

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