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Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up
    #24821329 - 12/02/17 01:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I've found the Shroomery people to be highly intelligent and self sufficient, so I thought I'd ask here before replacing duplicate parts in my refrigerator.

Recently I've been having issues with my Kenmore Model 253.64532600 refrigerator. It doesn't defrost, and the freezer fills with frost near the coils. This causes the fridge portion to not cool, since it is only a baffle that directs cold air from the freezer to the refrigerator.

I replaced the fan motor, temp control, defrost timer, defrost thermostat, and defrost heater from parts on ebay. The only suspect is the defrost heater, but it shows below 50 ohm continuity (41 ohm). It had tape to seal tears in the bag.

It ran for three weeks, colder than ever, and now frost is building up like before in about three weeks.

Seems like I got one of the many used defrost heaters for this model, but it's hard to be sure.

Does anyone have experience with this sort of repair. I though this multiple replacement would have sorted everything, but the problem still happens. It seems like the defrost heater is commonly sold as used, but the ebay auction listed it as "brand new."

I have some knowledge of electrical and electronic work, but this is not testing as expected. I have installed new multi-floor wiring, breakers and outlets, as well as building mains powered electronic musical instruments... yet this is baffling me.

Any help would be much appreciated. It seems like the heater should be OK. The defrost timer passes the test of turning clockwise to enable the defrost cycle. Yet the fridge runs almost constantly, the frost builds up, blocks the baffle, and the temperature rises day by day.

Thanks in advance!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl] * 1
    #24843931 - 12/13/17 01:28 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I had similar issues with a Frigidaire side by side that was frosting up on the freezer coil while the​ fridge side couldn't keep​ cold.

Turned out that the compressor was low on coolant. An appliance repair guy told me it would cost $600 for him to trace the leak and recharge the coolant. I ended up fixing it myself for about $30.

If you go to an appliance parts​ store you can purchase a piercing valve for the compressor line. At Napa you can purchase refrigerant, the gauge and line for the refrigerant, and an adapter to go from the refrigerant gauge to​ the piercing valve. Then you can recharge the compressor yourself.

I did that repair almost a year ago and the fridge is still working great. Best luck!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24844097 - 12/13/17 02:52 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Grey Fox, thank you for your response!

It is interesting to read about your experience. This was a pretty cheap fridge, so I could totally see them cutting corners on the amount of refrigerant it was charged with initially. One of the problems is that we do not seem to have a serious appliance parts store, but I'm sure I can find the piercing valve online somewhere.

I moved the food to our other fridge, and defrosted again after writing this message. Mostly to buy us some time. At this point, it is still cool enough (37-38F or so) in the fridge portion, however the frost is building up again on the coils.

Does the piercing valve then stay in the line, allowing later use, or is it necessary to seal up the line after the recharge? If you have any links to a walkthrough or tutorial for this repair, please let me know.

600$ is half of my disability income for the month, so learning to do it myself will be far better. I will definitely look into this sort of repair, and see what I can learn! It's much appreciated!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24844186 - 12/13/17 03:40 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Google "recharge coolant refrigerator" and videos will come up on YouTube. Peircing valve is a few dollars and it remains mounted on the line once you install it​ (otherwise all the coolant would leak out again). Refrigerators are made so cheaply now. Many of them are manufactured borderline undercharged but you don't notice it until the compressor has some years of wear and tare. The hardest part to find is the adapter to go from the peircing valve to the auto coolant gauge but a large Napa should have it behind the counter.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24844299 - 12/13/17 05:01 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you so much! This is definitely something I will try!

With the "new" defrost heater testing in range, the defrost thermostat seeming fine as well, and the defrost timer switching like normal, it seems like it very well could be a refrigerant issue.

You rock!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24844433 - 12/13/17 06:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24857710 - 12/20/17 12:19 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

GreyFox, is this the kind of piercing valve which you spoke of? Seems like it has attachments for various sizes of compressor line tubes...

BPV31 SUPCO

Just hoping to get a thumbs up on that before I place an order. I found a step by step instruction for the recharge, so I should be able to stop by an auto part store and get the rest of the supplies.

Thanks again for your assistance!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24861021 - 12/21/17 08:41 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

That looks right. Depending on the thickness of the copper line you use the insert that makes the valve fit properly. Once the valve is mounted on the line you tighten down on the center screw with the allen wrench to pierce the line. Then you loosen that center screw a little to use the valve. When you're done using the valve​ you retighten the center screw again. Good luck!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24861052 - 12/21/17 08:55 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

But don't mount it on the line until you have the adapter and auto coolant recharge line/gauge. You're going to have to show the guy at Napa the piercing valve in order to get the correct adapter. Once you pierce that copper line the valve can't be removed.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24861082 - 12/21/17 09:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Oh you rock, you have helped me mucho! Now it's ON! Thank you! :thumbup:


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24861099 - 12/21/17 09:25 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

No problem. I hope you get that fridge working right again.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24891371 - 01/05/18 07:57 AM (6 years, 24 days ago)

I have procured all of the necessary gear to do this recharge, thanks to your advice! The guy at the auto parts store was very helpful, and even threw in for free the adapter which connects between the hose/guage thingy and the piercing valve. So, if this all goes well, I will only have spent about $35!

I'm giving the fridge one last manual defrost before I do this, since the buildup was collecting in the freezer again. Probably won't actually do the work for a couple of days, since I'm probably going to fast and do some ayahuasca or gymnopilus tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes though.

Thanks for your help Grey Fox!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24891418 - 01/05/18 08:31 AM (6 years, 24 days ago)

Defrosting the freezer is a good idea. Once you install that piercing valve you basically create a low side port just like you have on your auto AC system (make sure you pierce the low side). I found the reading on that gauge to be pretty useless. Keep giving it a little more refrigerant until the line gets cold to the touch. If the line starts to ice over that means you overcharged it. Best luck with your repair and​ with everything​ else. :grin:


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24891542 - 01/05/18 10:07 AM (6 years, 24 days ago)

Thank you for the tips! I will keep that in mind.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24892675 - 01/05/18 07:28 PM (6 years, 23 days ago)

Are you sure you're using the correct refrigerant? Some of them run colder then others.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #24893154 - 01/05/18 11:21 PM (6 years, 23 days ago)

It should be marked on the compressor. They are almost always R134a.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #24893158 - 01/05/18 11:23 PM (6 years, 23 days ago)

If some dingleberry comes through and recharges it with a different refrigerant though that could easily account for the problems he's running into. I've seen it happen before, and he's already run through 5 different repairs so this might actually be the case here.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #24893540 - 01/06/18 06:54 AM (6 years, 23 days ago)

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Are you sure you're using the correct refrigerant? Some of them run colder then others.




It is definitely r134a, and this fridge has not been recharged since we bought it new. As far as I've read, most fridge compressors made after 2000 are charged with r134a. Ours is tagged as that type.

The auto parts guy was concerned about that, and was convinced that auto AC systems use a totally different type from fridges. Everything seems to match up though.

The odds are, that this box was just built on the cheap and not fully charged to begin with. It was the cheapest auto defrost we could find at the time, and we had already lived seven years with basically an "ice box" ... you know, where the freezer is just a metal case which builds up frost around the whole thing, and when it's humid out, you end up having to manually defrost every week or two. That sucked... we nearly stopped eating anything but dry goods!

Thank you for your concern! I am confident that this will go well. If for some reason this does not solve the problem, then probably the defrost heater I bought was defective.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24896230 - 01/07/18 11:38 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

I've dealt with this a on a couple fridges by replacing the heating element and the timer that runs it.  Sounds like you did that but maybe the used parts weren't good.  Anyway, here's a link to a site that has got my out of a few jams - https://www.repairclinic.com/
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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #24896270 - 01/07/18 11:52 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

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I've dealt with this a on a couple fridges by replacing the heating element and the timer that runs it.  Sounds like you did that but maybe the used parts weren't good.  Anyway, here's a link to a site that has got my out of a few jams - https://www.repairclinic.com/
Good luck




Thanks for the assistance!

I do know that the new timer is good. I can advance it and put it into defrost. The new heating element I got reads within spec, though it will be one of the first things I re-do if this doesn't work.

If this recharge does not solve my problem, I will keep looking... however I feel pretty confident that this will help considerably.

I appreciate your suggestions!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24912825 - 01/14/18 07:20 AM (6 years, 15 days ago)

Been thoroughly busy since doing the recharge, but it seems to have helped so far. Of course I will need to wait the usual three weeks to be sure the fridge is not reacting the same way (major frost build up followed by lack of cool air to the lower fridge section).

The repair went easily with your help Grey Fox! So far I've measured the temps in the fridge ranging from 34-38F, which is just right to keep my stuff fresh! Had to turn the freezer baffle down actually, when my broccoli started getting frost on it (coldest part of the fridge).

Thanks for the help everyone!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #24912903 - 01/14/18 08:12 AM (6 years, 15 days ago)

I don’t know anything about fridges but if they are like AC units homes/cars. They refrigerant is in a closed system and should never deplete. And very doubtful it wasn’t filled correctly. Meaning if it’s running low and the coils are frosting up, then you have a leak. I realize you already recharged it but more than likely it will eventually go back to how it was. Have to find the leak and solder it. Then recharge again. Surprising how most auto parts stores will sell refrigerant to people without providing a license. Since you have to be certified to work on such things. Legally they aren’t supposed to sell it without you providing one. Not that it’s rocket science. But refrigerant is a CFC and damages the atmosphere of you let it escape. Hence the laws


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: h4dr0n]
    #24912985 - 01/14/18 09:00 AM (6 years, 15 days ago)

The R134a does not require a license to use, for some reason. I have read many reports of refrigerators leaving the factory with insufficient coolant charge. Since this one was extremely cheap, it is a possibility. I know that at this point, it is working better than ever.

The leak is a possibility, though I know what that stuff smells like, and I don't notice it in our small kitchen. I do know how to solder if it comes down to it.

Thanks for the advice!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #25044714 - 03/07/18 08:02 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

So, my fridge has been taken away and replaced with a brand new one. I couldn't handle the stress and suspense anymore. Dealt with paranoia about food safety four like six months now, and that's not good for me. Had to load the food into the upstairs fridge and back for defrosting too many times.

I don't know what the hell it's problem was. The frost went all the way to the compressor, which I had not noticed before, since it was always defrosted before I worked on it. The guys who took it away acted like they had never seen that before.

But either way, grabbed a nice new whirlpool "all refrigerator." We don't really eat frozen food, and that may have been part of the trouble. The kenmore manual said it works best when the freezer is 2/3 full, but it was usually just some ice cube trays!

If nothing else, having the ice upstairs might help with our drinking problem. We've been upping the proof of our booze consistently, with 100-151 being the most common... not good. We had a nice bottle of absinthe, and have another one which we're saving for my wife's birthday/opium season (136 proof, imported from france by my in laws, may they RIP). Hopefully beyond that we can stick to shrooms and weed until then.

Thanks for everyone's help, but I guess this was a bit beyond my abilities. Got the extended warranty on the new one. :laugh:


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #25047869 - 03/08/18 04:56 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Too bad you had to get a new fridge but at least now you can have peace of mind about it and know that your food will be safe. Frost all the way to the compressor could mean that you overcharged the system, which will also cause it to have problems maintaining temperature.

I just recently had to recharge my fridge again. So it went about a year from the original recharge. There must be a small leak in the system. But if it goes a year in between needing to be recharged thats not too bad.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #25048013 - 03/08/18 07:38 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I started to get paranoid about breathing coolant as well, but maybe the paranoia was FROM breathing coolant... who knows. Either way this fridge seems to be a step up.

Maybe the gauge on the adapter hose I got was inaccurate, since it seemed to read the right amount of pressure when I charged it. Doesn't matter now I suppose.

It's time to grow some garden seeds and get off the booze, so I have more important things to use my time and energy on.

I really appreciate the help though Grey Fox!


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #25048076 - 03/08/18 08:35 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

:grampofapproval:


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #25048093 - 03/08/18 08:49 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

SEEDS!





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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25048202 - 03/08/18 10:14 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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SEEDS!








Seeds? It's Nirvana's Wonder Woman Skunk.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl] * 1
    #25048228 - 03/08/18 10:29 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl] * 1
    #25048236 - 03/08/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Spivkurl said:
Quote:

Buster_Brown said:
SEEDS!








Seeds? It's Nirvana's Wonder Woman Skunk.




Quote from a customer: “After a year of mainly growing WW it's hard to imagine growing anything else. The size of these buds are huge, hard, and full of frosty white crystals. The taste is wonderful to the palate. These plants might be best Nirvana has to sell.” - John A.



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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25048307 - 03/08/18 11:07 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Buster_Brown said:
Quote:

Spivkurl said:
Quote:

Buster_Brown said:
SEEDS!








Seeds? It's Nirvana's Wonder Woman Skunk.




Quote from a customer: “After a year of mainly growing WW it's hard to imagine growing anything else. The size of these buds are huge, hard, and full of frosty white crystals. The taste is wonderful to the palate. These plants might be best Nirvana has to sell.” - John A.






Yep, that's the one! Been growing various phenomes of this for years now. Hadn't started a new seed in a couple of years either... kept the same pheno going through 2016 by bringing clones outside, and then cloning them for the winter indo. Only one seed left now.

I guess the main consistent issue is the coughing. A green hit can knock me on my ass just from lack of oxygen to my brain, due to coughing fits. Not the most medicinal bud in the world, at least for my wife and I, since certain phenomes can induce a lot of paranoia and near psychosis (which we deal with already).

I dig hallucinations though, and I'm used to them... so it's one of my favorite buds. Along with some shrooms, a bowl of this can sit there for hours, just a toke here and there.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: orison]
    #25048319 - 03/08/18 11:14 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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orison319 said:
honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..




Good to know for future reference. I was just desperate... now things are looking up financially through all the worst of means. Mother and father in law both died this year.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: orison]
    #25049411 - 03/08/18 02:33 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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orison319 said:
honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..




I don't really understand what you're saying there. First you say that the piercing valve is useless. Then you say there is nowhere to hookup a gauge to. What do you think the piercing valve is for? By piercong the low side you create a low side port that you can use to test pressure and recharge. I know because I've done it and it works. Why buy a new $1000 fridge if you can fix the existing one for $30? You know a lot of HVAC guys who do work on home refrigerators? Really?


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Grey Fox]
    #25112528 - 04/04/18 12:15 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Grey Fox said:
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honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..




I don't really understand what you're saying there. First you say that the piercing valve is useless. Then you say there is nowhere to hookup a gauge to. What do you think the piercing valve is for? By piercong the low side you create a low side port that you can use to test pressure and recharge. I know because I've done it and it works. Why buy a new $1000 fridge if you can fix the existing one for $30? You know a lot of HVAC guys who do work on home refrigerators? Really?




Why charge it, when its leaking? all your doing is putting chemicals into the atmosphere.
sure you can get a low side reading. maybe make it work for some youtube video monetization .but doubtful its going to work proper if its refrigerant alone. electronic parts are usually no problem at all.

do you want your food to be relying on whether or not this machine runs proper, keep checking on it, over icing, not thawing because its over charged. these things are made with very little margin for error. then you have to keep tweeking it. its not really worth it, unless you want to experiment ..

here we can get fridge for around 299$. not going to be a double door ice maker. but ice makers are stupid, take up half a freezer.


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: orison]
    #25112937 - 04/04/18 07:08 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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orison319 said:
honestly you really cant charge a free standing refrigerator. fouling up the pressure with a piercing schrader valve is useless, you cant get proper high side, low side reading on a gauge because there isnt anywhere to hook it up to.

some parts can be fixed others can not.

most hvac persons will tell you. time to get a new fridge.
check with your electric company -sometimes they will give you up to 50$ refund to take it from you.

buy a newer energy efficient model. less headaches ..




I don't really understand what you're saying there. First you say that the piercing valve is useless. Then you say there is nowhere to hookup a gauge to. What do you think the piercing valve is for? By piercong the low side you create a low side port that you can use to test pressure and recharge. I know because I've done it and it works. Why buy a new $1000 fridge if you can fix the existing one for $30? You know a lot of HVAC guys who do work on home refrigerators? Really?




Why charge it, when its leaking? all your doing is putting chemicals into the atmosphere.
sure you can get a low side reading. maybe make it work for some youtube video monetization .but doubtful its going to work proper if its refrigerant alone. electronic parts are usually no problem at all.

do you want your food to be relying on whether or not this machine runs proper, keep checking on it, over icing, not thawing because its over charged. these things are made with very little margin for error. then you have to keep tweeking it. its not really worth it, unless you want to experiment ..

here we can get fridge for around 299$. not going to be a double door ice maker. but ice makers are stupid, take up half a freezer.




We spent about $1000 on our replacement. All refrigerator like we have wanted for a long time. We have another one upstairs for ice, so it works out. We don't use much frozen stuff. The new one has four crispers, so we're all ready for our veggie garden this year... :smile:

I got really sick of the paranoia that the struggle with the old fridge caused. I hate getting food poisoning big time. Having one that works, consistently around 36F, is a big relief.

Now we get to replace our furnace :\


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Re: Replaced five parts in kenmore fridge, still frosting up [Re: Spivkurl]
    #25416577 - 08/27/18 10:43 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

So, here we are, about six months after spending around $1000 on a new whirlpool "all refrigerator." Back in the same position, except under warranty. It's a great indication of modern craftsmanship.

Our previous fridge had to be serviced at about the six month point as well.

This one has a bad digital control board, and stopped going into the defrost cycle... peaked at about 55 degrees F while running constantly. Again dragging all of the food left to the upstairs fridge, while we manually defrost.

I wonder how much one must spend to have a fridge that is reliable? I'm guessing in this economic and environmental climate, it wouldn't matter. We get to sit here and wait while they source a part, with no ideas on time frame.

Sorry to rant. it is just frustrating. :facepalm:


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    #25446434 - 09/09/18 12:10 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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