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flyhighfunguy

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Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia?
#24821157 - 12/02/17 12:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi everyone,
I harvested my first jar of sclerotia yesterday after a little over 2 months, and got a great 90 gram harvest.
I have a dehydrater that has a 95, 105, 115, 125, 135, 145, and 160 settings, and I'm wondering what the best temp would be.
Also is there anything I should look for to know when sclerotia is completely dry?
Thanks

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24821214 - 12/02/17 12:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ideally you don't dry em
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24821224 - 12/02/17 12:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: Ideally you don't dry em
How do you store for long term? Frezze?
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: bodhisatta]
#24821238 - 12/02/17 12:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea i've heard that they get very hard and can lose potency, the problem is theres no way i could possibly eat all 90 grams before they go spoiled, so i feel like i have no choice but to dry them.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24821246 - 12/02/17 01:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try it and see. Fast for 24 hours blend those suckers up and chug them all down in one sitting.
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Enigma1]
#24821426 - 12/02/17 02:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol eating it all at once would definitely be way too intense
Does anyone have any recommendations for what temp to use and what to look for?
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24821452 - 12/02/17 02:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Store them in a mason jar in the fridge if you want to store them undehydrated.
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: hamloaf]
#24821568 - 12/02/17 03:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't they only stay fresh for around a month tho? There's no way I could eat 90 grams that quick.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24821668 - 12/02/17 03:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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flyhighfunguy said: Don't they only stay fresh for around a month tho? There's no way I could eat 90 grams that quick.
Sorry off topic but my friend just harvested a Q jar and he got 84 g from it. Right on track with yours. I’ll let em know he’s doing well 
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: ediddy]
#24821677 - 12/02/17 03:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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When my friend dries out shrooms to cracker dry he turns his dehydrator to 105 for about 24 hrs with no noticeable loss of potency and ends up with a great product.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: ediddy] 1
#24821706 - 12/02/17 04:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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They'll stay fresh for up to 6 months being stored fresh in the fridge inside of mason jars.
Stones are different than Cubensis fruits, though. Stones lose considerable amounts potency from being dehydrated.
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: hamloaf]
#24821780 - 12/02/17 04:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh wow i didnt realize that, i wonder why sclerotia loses potency but not mushrooms.
If i cant leave them in the fridge would 95 degrees be sufficient enough to dehydrate them you think?
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Edited by flyhighfunguy (12/02/17 04:44 PM)
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24821795 - 12/02/17 04:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe you can wait a while to harvest the rest. They can stay in the spawn for a long period of time. Sclerotia is built to handle forest fires and shit. Any instance where it can't fruit.
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: TaderHoagie]
#24821805 - 12/02/17 04:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea i am definitely going to wait to harvest the rest, but i already have 90 grams from this one jar already.
Unfortunately i cant put them in a fridge so im just gonna have to hope they dont lose too much potency.
Does anyone know if 95 degrees is enough? i want to go as low as possible to maybe minimize potency loss.
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Edited by flyhighfunguy (12/02/17 04:52 PM)
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24821950 - 12/02/17 05:32 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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With stones it doesn't matter what temperature they were dehydrated at. Drying them at room temperature to 200F won't make any difference. With stones, once they are dry, a considerable amount of the potency is lost.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: hamloaf]
#24821957 - 12/02/17 05:33 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Heat doesn't make potency go away. We dry shrooms at 160+ and they are just fine. You can deep fry em too.
If anything the time it takes to dry them doesn't help things. So dry warmer than cooler
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: hamloaf]
#24822249 - 12/02/17 08:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamloaf said: They'll stay fresh for up to 6 months being stored fresh in the fridge inside of mason jars.
Stones are different than Cubensis fruits, though. Stones lose considerable amounts potency from being dehydrated.
So say your a person that only do this stuff twice a year maybe 3 times. How long will the stones last in raw form still in the grain or verm? What’s a considerable amouth of potently more than half? 6 months, what if they are vacuum sealed?
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Enigma1]
#24824173 - 12/03/17 05:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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General consensus is about 6months on grain. I've seen 9 months and have personally had stones last for the better part of two years on grain before contamination set in.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: hamloaf]
#24824239 - 12/03/17 06:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You could try putting them in honey since its not a massive amount, seeing as they last so long anyway that'd probably extend them as long as you need.
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: hamloaf]
#24824247 - 12/03/17 06:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow thats the longest ive ever heard of, did you notice a difference in yield and/or potency compared to jars harvested sooner?
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Edited by flyhighfunguy (12/03/17 06:17 PM)
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24824303 - 12/03/17 07:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Im kind of over run with stone now myself and cant do anything with them. Some jars are hitting the 4 month mark and alot more at 3. Not aure what to do with them all they produced better than expected
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Variegated]
#24824305 - 12/03/17 07:02 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Variegated said: Im kind of over run with stone now myself and cant do anything with them. Some jars are hitting the 4 month mark and alot more at 3. Not aure what to do with them all they produced better than expected
Make chocolates and share the magic
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Piaseski]
#24824308 - 12/03/17 07:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Piaseski said:
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Variegated said: Im kind of over run with stone now myself and cant do anything with them. Some jars are hitting the 4 month mark and alot more at 3. Not aure what to do with them all they produced better than expected
Make chocolates and share the magic
May have to or dry them out and make some honey. I think i have enough to make up for the potency lose from drying.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Variegated]
#24824311 - 12/03/17 07:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Variegated said:
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Piaseski said:
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Variegated said: Im kind of over run with stone now myself and cant do anything with them. Some jars are hitting the 4 month mark and alot more at 3. Not aure what to do with them all they produced better than expected
Make chocolates and share the magic
May have to or dry them out and make some honey. I think i have enough to make up for the potency lose from drying.
Just make the honey with em fresh ground up
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Piaseski]
#24824406 - 12/03/17 08:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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According to some online sellers, sclerotia can be stored indefinitely if properly dried and stored in a freezer.
I haven't grown sclerotia varieties. But has anyone cut their sclerotia before storing or drying? -I know they can become like "jawbreakers" once dry.
I feel like cutting it, drying, then freezing would be the way to go when you have bricks of fresh sclerotia you do cannot consume within the 3-6 month time frame.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Antimatter]
#24824935 - 12/04/17 05:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I’m just going to make Chocolate Bars .
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Antimatter]
#24824941 - 12/04/17 05:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Antimatter said: According to some online sellers, sclerotia can be stored indefinitely if properly dried and stored in a freezer.
I haven't grown sclerotia varieties. But has anyone cut their sclerotia before storing or drying? -I know they can become like "jawbreakers" once dry.
I feel like cutting it, drying, then freezing would be the way to go when you have bricks of fresh sclerotia you do cannot consume within the 3-6 month time frame.
I feel there's no need to dry them at all. Just adds unessecary work.
Honey/Chocolate/Vacuum/Freeze whatever you want to do just do it to em fresh.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: Piaseski]
#24825084 - 12/04/17 08:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn I wish I would of seen this before I dehydrated them yesterday. Im just hoping they didnt lose a lot of potency.
Took 30 hours to dry from 82 grams to 28 grams at 105 F.
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Edited by flyhighfunguy (12/04/17 08:12 AM)
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24827323 - 12/05/17 08:03 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Incase anyone's wondering, I dehydrated the stones a couple days ago and tested them out last night.
I lemon tek'd about 4.5 grams throughout the night and had a very nice trip, and I noticed very little to no potency loss in my opinion. Still very visual and a nice body high.
It could be that I am still so new to tripping and I'm still just very sensitive to them, but they definitely worked for me.
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24827380 - 12/05/17 08:45 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: hamloaf]
#24827391 - 12/05/17 08:54 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Did you notice any major differences in the potency/yield of the jar you let go for 2 years?
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24827397 - 12/05/17 09:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not really in the potency department. As far as yield, the yield was the same.
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flyhighfunguy

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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: hamloaf]
#24835451 - 12/09/17 09:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamloaf said: They'll stay fresh for up to 6 months being stored fresh in the fridge inside of mason jars.
Stones are different than Cubensis fruits, though. Stones lose considerable amounts potency from being dehydrated.
Can anyone else confirm that this is true. I was under the impression that storing them fresh in jars would cause rot, but if it works then I definitely want to get them into jars.
Thanks
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Re: Proper temp for dehydrating sclerotia? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24880485 - 12/31/17 07:00 AM (7 years, 17 days ago) |
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Stone producers are on my bucket list.
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