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DEEZEDBRAH
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Re: Should anyone ever feel empathy for a psycopathic predator? [Re: Morel Guy]
#24817189 - 11/30/17 04:00 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Insanity isn't psychopathy. Psychopathy is a healthy ego with sick interests. Their pleasure is others pain. Defense mechanisms built to feel pleasure from the mirror of suffering in others. It's an old psyche. I think in the past psychopaths thrived.
I believe there is still skme paycholathy in all humans. We eat meat, we don't understand enough to empathize even on a professional and clinical level. Paycheck before morality seems to be the modern route.
There is a sickness in being ourselves. Some of us though have a different relationship with suffering than more purebred psychopaths. Both though are beings lost in pleasure and pain, not realizing blth can be the one and same.
Existance fucked us all so learn to like it, love the sensation
I am not playing the DSM5-100000000000000000000 game. Jump to bi-polar, mania, acute mania, and a series of excuses.
Human nature is suffering one way or another even for those living a great life. It is not an argument.
If someone steps up, they best bring a fucking helmet because I will not hold back. If someone comes at me, my family or friends, I will end them. If I cannot beat someone, they are a pro fighter or mma fucker, I will use a weapon or wwf style chair shot. ZERO FUCKS GIVEN!
far too often, people excuse their victim self concept like the screaming liberals after the election, and then, following up with the use of force. Some girl got maced and clubbed by a piece of shit just because she had a hat mistaken for a trump supporter. It is unacceptable.
No a days, people can talk shit be it online or elsewhere, and then, when called out, they run to the police, cry or make up false rape accusations.
Capacity is needed to make decisions and given one's consent. Regardless, there are fucking boundaries, and the risk of harm to myself, fam, friends will never be taken lightly.
I had a recent incident with a drunkard day time in a coffee shop. I was with my cousin and a buddy. The drunkard clearly had mental health and cops came but, there was an instance whereby, he came within bounds of our comfort zone. In North America, 3ft is comfort zone. Again, I will do everything in my power to refrain but, I will not fucking hesitate. The dude was older and a big guy.
Being DEEZED doesn't hurt even though, it does not necessarily equate to one's ability to throw hands.
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specialpeopleclub


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Re: Should anyone ever feel empathy for a psycopathic predator? [Re: DEEZEDBRAH]
#24817258 - 11/30/17 04:35 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Someone that has a brain lesion or abnormality should get some compassion.
When are your actions deterministically based in brain structure, and when is it your personality doing what it does? Is there any way to separate the two.
When we can detect and fix these problems, does a murderer get to be fixed and not take responsibility? Can there be responsibility this way?
Every terrible person will be using this to their advantage. So you fucked a kid? We can fix it so you don't want to anymore.
Maybe preemptive,voluntary screening, and increased penalties for those that commit crimes that could have been stopped.
Pedophiles and self swear psychotics may be the best candidates, since they would know their problems and be able to get in front of of before acting.
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Shroomslip
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Re: Should anyone ever feel empathy for a psycopathic predator? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#24817277 - 11/30/17 04:48 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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They already risk life in prison or the death penalty (the ones who kill anyways) so I doubt harsher sentences for not volunteering is really going to do much.
If we had the ability to actually nail something down that conclusively and we could "fix" such things, the most practical thing to do is probably screen for it and fix it before it's an issue. Many psychopaths/sociopaths start out pretty young, that would at least suggest if a brain abnormality is responsible, it's present even in the brain of a child.
Though that would present a new issue.. Let's say best case scenario we can identify the issues 100% of the time with absolutely no error. Is it right to force people, including children into brain manipulation before they've even committed a crime? If we're admitting outright that pyschopaths/sociopaths are not at fault for their actions and it's all down to the brain, and we DON'T force them through it, who is responsible for the deaths if they end up killing?
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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way. I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today. Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear. I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear. You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline
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Re: Should anyone ever feel empathy for a psycopathic predator? [Re: Shroomslip]
#24817337 - 11/30/17 05:19 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's why I said voluntary. By worse penalties, I mean real punishment. Live skonnings, bring back some of those Jap tortures from Korea where they put you in boiling water until your skin started coming off.
We have to decide what we are, philosophically. If we are just emergent properties of our brain structure and chemistry, or weather there is something more abstract that we infringe on the dignity of by forcibly altering it.
At some point are you still you?
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Re: Should anyone ever feel empathy for a psycopathic predator? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
#24817368 - 11/30/17 05:31 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's something I wonder myself, but what defines "you"? Your temperament? Your memories? Your personality? We already know altering the brain can have significant impacts on all three but most amazingly is cases like the guy who got a tamping iron or whatever it was blown through his skull and he went from a a nice guy to a complete asshole. The people who knew him best agreed he was no longer "him".
Maybe that's the thing. Maybe we can't save say, Ted Bundy, we can however save whoever inhabits his body after whatever procedure, not to mention whatever victims he would've taken.
Difficult to really say what side I'd be on without actually knowing what the procedure(s) might even involve or how significantly fixing this one "thing" would alter a person in other regards. Maybe by cutting away the bad part of the brain for instance, you'd also remove the part that would've been their greatest achievement in life. (I'm pretty sure whatever treatment wouldn't involve something as crude as just removing material, but I'm just giving an example)
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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way. I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today. Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear. I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear. You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline
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Re: Should anyone ever feel empathy for a psycopathic predator? [Re: Shroomslip]
#24819218 - 12/01/17 02:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Take away the mass murderer part, take away greatest achievement.
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