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Offlineyurasokolov
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Pop-corn Jar Question
    #24818842 - 12/01/17 11:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Greetings,
I am making some corn substrate here under third-world supply conditions. The water with spores I injected pretty much stayed at the bottom, but I have pillow-stuffing filters and figured that it should be ok. Now, 14 days past, I see some grayishly-yellowish visually more dense, cottage-cheese looking stuff in few places where the water was, although mycelium is colonizing the corn quite well. Is this an acceptable phenomenon? Is there anything that can and should be done about it? I thank you in advance.





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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: yurasokolov]
    #24818872 - 12/01/17 11:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Looks too wet. Perhaps contaminated already.

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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: Neowynd8]
    #24818904 - 12/01/17 12:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Grim


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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: Neowynd8]
    #24818925 - 12/01/17 12:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Neowynd8 said:
Looks too wet. Perhaps contaminated already.



:whathesaid:

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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: yurasokolov]
    #24818934 - 12/01/17 12:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Extra water in bottom of jars isn't good.  I'm guessing you injected quite a bit of spore solution?  If the only option you have is spore syringe to popcorn, try to use as little spore solution as possible so you don't upset the moisture level in your jars.  There are thousands of spores in a drop, you don't need much.

You said gray green cottage cheese...why would you consider saving something like that?  Spawn jars need to be contaminate free, or close to it and that doesn't fit the description.  What does it smell like?  Through the polyfill.

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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: somegirl]
    #24819127 - 12/01/17 01:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Right, it was 10 cc for five jars. I see.


Thanks for the tip about smelling them. I caught a sordid smell on two jars that have very little myc and look more suspicious. I shook them up and see the slimy moisture. The other three smell like corn but have a few spots of dryer colored the same way thing.

Anyway, considering the present circumstances, I need to grow at least one shroom since it's pretty hard/expensive to get spores around here. Any suggestions?

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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: yurasokolov]
    #24819173 - 12/01/17 02:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

There isn't anything you can do except toss jars that are sour/contaminated, and hope for the others. 

If you can do agar, you might be able to rescue mycelium from a jar and clean it away from the contaminates, then once it is clean inoculate new jars.

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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: somegirl]
    #24819511 - 12/01/17 04:38 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Can't you find bird seed or rye in the Ukraine?  It definitely looks like mycelium growth but way, way to much water.  I doubt all that water came from 2cc's.  Your prep probably allowed all that water in.


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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: sir_spins_alot]
    #24820138 - 12/01/17 09:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Dry your grain more. Also, use the lid to that jar with a filter in it and ditch the foil after it comes out of your PC. And you could have done 20 or more jars with that syringe. It only takes a few drops per jar really.

What you have now is trash. Anything slimy, smelly or moldy has to go.


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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #24863187 - 12/23/17 03:28 AM (7 years, 26 days ago)

Here is an update for posterity. I opened the jars and carefully spooned out the more-or-less healthy-looking nuggets of mycelium. I made a small container trying my best to pick the "cream" of the colonized corn I had by smelling, tasting and just being painstaking (the sour ones obviously were different); and a bigger case with the still-decent rest. Both stuffed with plain coir. Of course, I knew they had to be contaminated one way or another, but simply could not "let the fish off the hook despite my age and the sharks circling around". I needed at least one shroom for spores, so I read some spells above the boxes and found the trust for the best course of action. The result exceeded my expectations: both containers got colonized and so far gave me one flush big enough to meet the New Year somewhere on the border of the Twilight Zone. I will make a whole sheet of prints and am to take the process with way more due diligence from now on. I am also curious if the poor cakes are about to get sick.  Cheers.


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Re: Pop-corn Jar Question [Re: yurasokolov]
    #24863899 - 12/23/17 01:16 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

I wouldn't trust any prints from that grow.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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