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What is a neocon?
    #2480613 - 03/29/04 06:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It seems some members here like to throw around the word "neocon," so I'd like to see if we can come up with a definition we all agree on. Here's how I define it:

Neocon: n. A person who supports authoritarian domestic policy, radical militarism, interventionist foreign policy, and believes in America's moral authority to impose its will on other countries through force.


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2480632 - 03/29/04 06:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: ]
    #2480645 - 03/29/04 06:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, you know a lot about this place for someone who only has 3 posts.

*sniff* *sniff*

Do I smell a puppet?


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2480662 - 03/29/04 06:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It's not a puppet, I had a bean burrito, popcorn, an egg and a beer for lunch.


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: Evolving]
    #2480714 - 03/29/04 06:45 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Oh.  Well, open a window next time. :razz:


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2480838 - 03/29/04 07:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hey, how about lighting a candle instead of cursing the darkness. There actaully is a definition of neo-conservative. Find it, post it and let's talk about it


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2480844 - 03/29/04 07:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

neoconservatism n. An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: ?The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s? (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).

Well I'll be damned! I guess I owe Alex an apology. By this definition, there ARE some neocons on this board.


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2480846 - 03/29/04 07:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

(from dictionary.com):

ne?o?con?ser?va?tism also ne?o-con?ser?va?tism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-kn-s?rv-tzm)
n.
An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: ?The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s? (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: trendal]
    #2480967 - 03/29/04 07:52 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Why am I not surprised that this is significantly different from your thread start?


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2481004 - 03/29/04 08:02 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I believe the connotation of neocon(servative) as
it is popularly used today seems a little closer to
SS7's original definition.

possibly because this latest crop of politicos currently
brandishing the label as their own are either trying
to shield their radicalism behind an otherwise benign
(or untainted) political label, or they are simply trying
to revolutionize the notion of neoconservatism as we
currently know it.

either way, the def in the dictionary doesn't really
square well with current neocon policy, if it's safe
to call it that.


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2481009 - 03/29/04 08:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It only seems "significantly different" in that it is significantly more vague.


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2481179 - 03/29/04 08:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

So I guess Alex was right all along.

I like everyone on this board, but it seems as though some people can't handle the fact that they are a neocon. People just need to accept who they are.




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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: Learyfan]
    #2481273 - 03/29/04 09:06 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

What the fuck???? This is like nailing down jello. Do you think that you can agree on a definition so I can discern whether I am one or not.


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2481508 - 03/29/04 10:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

there's no reason to call names.


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2481528 - 03/29/04 10:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
What the fuck???? This is like nailing down jello. Do you think that you fucking morons can agree on a definition so I can discern whether I am one or not. Holy shit, what a comedy act!!!!!




Now that we've seen the dictionary definition, there isn't much to agree or disagree on is there?




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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: Learyfan]
    #2481606 - 03/29/04 10:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I still have no clue as to what it means. The dictionary definition seems to refer to itself for a definition or just says what neo-con is not. It is elsewhere typically referred to as a Jewish thing. Part of the Jewish/Illuminati cabal that controls the world.

I'll just be happy if you can tell me what exactly you mean by the term Neo-con. Anything you make up will be fine with me as long as I can understand what you are talking about


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2481623 - 03/29/04 10:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not the one who says neocon.




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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: Learyfan]
    #2481633 - 03/29/04 10:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I just click last post sometimes


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #2482279 - 03/30/04 01:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

bad form.


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Re: What is a neocon? [Re: Learyfan]
    #2482287 - 03/30/04 01:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

So I guess Alex was right all along.

:smile2:

Amazing the amount of endless shit these people can spew out while being so utterly wrong.

but it seems as though some people can't handle the fact that they are a neocon

Wonder why they find it so offensive? Maybe it just doesn't sound as cool as whatever they like to think they are.


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