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kidicarus2712
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18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far?
#24798761 - 11/21/17 08:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys. First bulk grow and this is how it looks so far. It’s been 18 days and am still waiting to for it to pin. Any suggestion or what i should be doing? I am giving it a 12 hour on and off light cycle as well as fanning and misting. Any suggestions would be appreciated
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Just_A_Noob
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: kidicarus2712]
#24798764 - 11/21/17 08:45 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks good. Is there water droplets on the substrate, even little tiny ones?. If not I'd say give it a light mist
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kidicarus2712
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24798778 - 11/21/17 08:50 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes there is a bunch of water droplets throughout the top layer. I do most about 3-4 times a day and light them 12/12. Any suggestion on what to do next?
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pekin420
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: Just_A_Noob]
#24798782 - 11/21/17 08:52 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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looks good. it will pin when it wants to. just keep on doing what your doing.
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Just_A_Noob
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: kidicarus2712]
#24798783 - 11/21/17 08:52 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep on, keepin on
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: pekin420]
#24798784 - 11/21/17 08:53 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't believe you're doing nothing wrong. Just be patient grasshopper
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pekin420
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: pekin420]
#24798787 - 11/21/17 08:54 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm just wondering what you use for spawn how many quarts of Spawn what's the substrate
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kidicarus2712
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: pekin420]
#24798828 - 11/21/17 09:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used 3 quart jars fully colonized, layered it with Hpoo and vermiculite. Took about 10 days to cover the top fully
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pekin420
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: kidicarus2712]
#24798879 - 11/21/17 09:40 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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if u don't have a dehydrator yet better get one. your bout to have ounces to dry
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: pekin420]
#24798885 - 11/21/17 09:42 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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let the surface evap, mist when there are no droplets on the surface
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Aunit
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: Ziran]
#24798916 - 11/21/17 10:09 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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It could be allowing your humidity to drop too often which is stalling knot to primordia. You wanna mist more when your pins are already in and babies. For now let the humidity handle the job and stop misting and keeping it open so much.
If you have a dry grow room those drops in humidity when you're admiring and misting are pretty serious. I had to find that one out for myself. Had a tub in the same situation as yours and once I left it alone and stopped giving it tons of fresh air and attention my knots finally blew up
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kidicarus2712
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: Aunit]
#24803096 - 11/23/17 11:09 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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What you think of it so far? Why are some areas more whiter then the other?
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pekin420
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: kidicarus2712]
#24803809 - 11/24/17 10:38 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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is the grayish part soaking wet?
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: pekin420]
#24803936 - 11/24/17 11:28 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's beginning to knot up. You'll see pins in the next few days.
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Aunit
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: kidicarus2712]
#24803971 - 11/24/17 11:50 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll preface this by saying I'm a noob so maybe someone more experienced has better or more info.
It looks like your having humidity issues. In every picture you've posted there is not much condensation build up on the sides of your chamber.
It is making me believe the humidity levels are probably too low and this is stalling your pinning. For knots to turn into primordia and pins they want a extremely high RH. Preferably not under 95% humidity inside of your tub.
At those levels of humidity you should have thick condensation build up throughout your tub. Preferably so thick you can barely look inside of the tub and you have to do that through the water drip paths.
At least this is my experience with getting a mono to pin successfully. Adjust your FAE holes and get that tub "dialed in" as they say.
Basically for your first flush you want your tub as close to autonomous as possible. You shouldn't really even need to mist if you get this right. Maybe once every few days. Once I got my tub dialed in my pinset blew up in like 48 hours. Prior to that it looked like yours. You just gotta provide the right growing conditions.
Here is one thing I did to successfully save something I couldnt get dialed in. I late cased it using franks jiffy mix tek. Before the late casing it had been 2 weeks of attempting and failing to get the right conditions. I decided to say eff it and try to case to help pinning along. This added about a week onto the process but it successfully exploded with pins and didn't take much effort to get it there. I would definitely suggest this to you.
Casings are much more noob friendly especially for a first timer. I know they catch a lot of flack for not being necessary but I wouldn't have got through my first bulk with out it.
If you cant figure out how to get your conditions right for pinning a casing layer seems to me like training wheels. It keeps humidity high at the surface of the myc and provides a source of moisture. I'd do it and you should see pins in about 7 to 10 days after casing.
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: Aunit] 1
#24804030 - 11/24/17 12:14 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fan, mist, wait. Today is day 19 for me and I just got my first 4-5 pins and some blobs on my MS PE bulk unmodified tub.
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kidicarus2712
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: Aunit]
#24804422 - 11/24/17 07:55 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will definetly increase the RH factor then by building up more condensation around the tub. For right now I’m using wax paper as a type of “casing layer” instead of actually using a casing layer. For now I shall mist the sides and leave it alone with high RH value.
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kidicarus2712
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: kidicarus2712]
#24804425 - 11/24/17 07:56 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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This strain is KSSS so hopefully it will pick up at some point. Been 3 weeks and a day so hopefully I haven’t lost the tub. Praying
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: kidicarus2712]
#24804441 - 11/24/17 08:04 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Condensation has absolutely nothing to do with humidity it is just a temp difference...you're doing fine the lack of condensation is no issue just means ya haven't dialed it in which will become easier over time
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Re: 18 days in and no pinning yet. How is it looking so far? [Re: cronicr]
#24804465 - 11/24/17 08:09 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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The lack of condensation also means he's not having huge temp swings either.
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