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MAOI-As + LSA
    #2479793 - 03/29/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How safe is this per se?


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2482153 - 03/30/04 12:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i would say it's safe as long as you follow the standard guidelines for using MAOIs and I would recommend fasting the day of just for precaution....which MAOI-A are you planning on using? I recently used a harmala I extracted from some Syrian Rue with some LSD and it worked fairly well, I don't really think I took enough and I'm not sure how much it potentiated it, but I will say it had a unique effect on the trip and lengthened it.


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: Hooty]
    #2483217 - 03/30/04 11:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I saw a few reports on Erowid. So somebody has done it and lived to tell about it. There would be a cold day in hell before I took an MAOI with HBWR seeds though. Somebody did that and lived to tell about it though. I still wouldn't fuck with that though.


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #2484464 - 03/30/04 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yes HBWR seeds arent that pleasent because of the toxicity. I mean the after effects.

Mind you, the spirit of Woodrose can be playful at times.


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2484523 - 03/30/04 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I like the HBWR experience. I just wouldn't want to combine something that toxic with a MAOI + the small amount needed for a dose and the duration of the experience make it fine by itself. But yeah those little guys have kicked my ass before. :shake:


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #2484579 - 03/30/04 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have found Ololiuqui to be a better experience then Woodrose.

Makes Woodrose look like ginger beer.


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2484603 - 03/30/04 07:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Mr_Gubjet said:
I have found Ololiuqui to be a better experience then Woodrose.

Makes Woodrose look like ginger beer.




I didn't really get off that much with the Ololiuqui. I hope that the fresh seeds will be more worth while.


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #2484622 - 03/30/04 07:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ya well old seeds arent worth it because they are so weak (almost as potent as MGs). Fresh ones from natures mind are great. The old ones are like half as potent then fresh.

70+ fresh seeds blew my mind. What a journey....

How much of a dose did you orginally take of old seeds?


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2484863 - 03/30/04 08:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

About 70. I took 10 to test it and then I took the other 70. I mean I liked it. It was smooth as hell but I wanted to go farther. I was thinking since the seeds are so small to harvest them immature (Morning Glory seeds are danker this way) then chop them up good. Dry them out with some dri rite and crush them into a fine powder and use as a snuff.


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #2484905 - 03/30/04 09:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Woah...

Maybe you should mix the seed snuff with yopo or something.

I have no idea what could happen when snuffed...

I dont think it would be a 'nice' feeling per se. Snorting plant matter sounds painful.

You can always go higher orally. The traditional shaman dose of virgin seeds is 200-400 fresh seeds.

I think going a higher oral dose would be most wise.

I myself must have only had a very very small taste of what a full blown virgin seed experience. From what would be considered 'threshold' to the natives. All I can say is thats intense for a threshold. Im not calling it a threshold, but I am sure the natives would. So 200-400 seeds would be way more intense...

From what I have experienced with 70+, it was wrathful at best.


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2488294 - 03/31/04 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The proper pronunciation of Ololiuqui is O-lol-liu-quway.

Am I right?


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2501533 - 04/01/04 10:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I''l most definitly use my seeds more orally than not, but you have to push the envelope a little if you know what I mean :biggrin:


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Re: MAOI-As + LSA [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2504876 - 04/01/04 01:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I tried the LSA + MAOI-A combo last night. 1 tps of syrian rue ground up and downed, and 15 hbwr seeds ground up and held in my mouth for about 15 minutes with water, moving it around frequently. Not a ton a rue and I didn't want to ingest the hbwr to not get sick with the combo. The effects were pretty tame, not much more than this amount of hbwr on their own. I felt more relaxed and tired I guess. Later on I started feeling a little sick in my stomach, but it was mild. Last night, however, I didn't sleep well and I woke up this morning feeling like shit. It could very well be completely unrelated, but I was feeling fine this time yesterday and now I feel like shit all over.


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