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OfflineYGYJ
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help with 2nd flush
    #2479501 - 03/29/04 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I just dunked and rolled in vermaculite yet it does not seem to be flowering too much. I read that the 2nd flush and so on usually blooms faster and denser until the nutrients run out but this time its fruiting alot slower then 1st flush. I'm using the 50/50 casing method along with cococoir in it. 1st flush was beautiful yet after the dunk it seems to have slowed down alot. Any suggestion to what may be the cause or how to improve growth? oh, and I dunked with 1/100 mixture of bleech.


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: YGYJ]
    #2479604 - 03/29/04 01:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

someone please help me! Its been 5 days since I have dunked and the growth is super slow, there is 1 growing on each casing...


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: YGYJ]
    #2479620 - 03/29/04 01:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You are just going to hear standard answers to these thing such as make sure you have enough air exchange humidity levels are ok and so on from what you described sounds as you are fine waiting 5 days for a second flush is nothing did they recieve a cold dunk to ? if so that take time to reinitiate cycle
After 2 weeks on a flush then be concerned do you have right temps for fruiting ?


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: FallenShroom]
    #2480336 - 03/29/04 04:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have good air exchange, the temp is from 70~75 degrees, humidity is about 80% (i know its low but its a 50 gallon tank so its good enough for now)I also did a cold dunk, but I haven't put in the fridge over night like I usually did in the past. It is fruiting at the moment but not as much as I thought it should.


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: YGYJ]
    #2480354 - 03/29/04 04:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

sometimes they don't do what you want them to  :frown:


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: MoNk]
    #2480366 - 03/29/04 05:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Cold dunking a cake and then casing it is a really bad idea; the whole point of a cold dunk is to stop mycelial growth to promote fruiting, so cold dunking inhibits colonisation of the casing layer.

I'm a little confused as to what you've done; you said that you "dunked and rolled" - did you fruit the cakes first? How do you roll a casing? Plus, bleach is really, really, really bad for mycelium IME; use peroxide.

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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: OJK]
    #2482377 - 03/30/04 01:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

this is my 2nd flush so I dunked them in 1/100 mixture of bleech just to make sure there was no contams, they were still in their casings so took out the rehydrated casings and rolled them in vermaculite just to give them a protective skin.


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: YGYJ]
    #2482457 - 03/30/04 02:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So lemme get this straight...you have a good looking casing you picked one flush from. It looks good, no probs, so....You dunk it in bleach and roll it in verm? NONONONONONONO! Next time just pick all the fruits, and spray really really well. Leave it alone and wait for the next flush!


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: simplemachine]
    #2483873 - 03/30/04 04:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ah there is the missing link I had, when am I supposed to dunk then? I'll spray (just water? or peroxide mixture) from now on.


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: YGYJ]
    #2484014 - 03/30/04 04:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

^^^^^yeah pretty much, and never bust out the bleach on a healthy grow, it's way overkill.



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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: YGYJ]
    #2484363 - 03/30/04 06:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can dunk cakes easily, but I also dunk my casings in the fridge to get a large fast flush. Pins form two to three days after dunking.
But don't add any verm. then the mycelium have to colonize it, which it won't very well. If you want the myc. to colonize the verm it's best left in a warm dark place covered for a few days. Then put it in the fruiting chamber.
Myc. jus wants to fruit in the fruiting chamber, the added myc. is then in the way.

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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: slammin007]
    #2485912 - 03/31/04 01:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well I noticed that not rolling it on verm causes contaminations on previous experience, so I figured rolling it in verm is sort of protecting it from contams. Kind of like the inocluation jar tech. they are fruiting, just not dense though.


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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: YGYJ]
    #2485922 - 03/31/04 01:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not rolling won't cause contams...the best thing to do to avoid contams is not mess with things. rolling just provides some extra water for pinning I don't think it helps the contam rates a bit.



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Re: help with 2nd flush [Re: simplemachine]
    #2486897 - 03/31/04 01:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

spraying water on it will definitely be time consuming and difficult, would you recommand just pouring in some filtered water?


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