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 Mateja
 
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 Re: I really need some advice  [Re: MisterKush]
#24798692 - 11/21/17 08:07 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's with the scraping? Drowning the cakes for a few hours is enough, no need to massacre them with a fork...
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 MisterKush
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: Mateja]
#24798707 - 11/21/17 08:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I heard about it from other threads about how it's supposed to be stimulating to the mycelium to grow or something. They only need a few hours this time? Not like a full 12 to 24 again?
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24798713 - 11/21/17 08:22 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
MisterKush said:
Alright so, cakes are starting to get dry quicker. Should I attempt a scrape with a clean fork and another dunk? After that, I really don't know what else to say, think, or do until I do this next time when circumstances are correct. Anyone got anything else to add? Also when I do this scraping of the cake surface with a clean fork, am I to use the end part of the fork to scrape, or one of the sides of the fork? Also how hard do I scrape? I don't want t entirely bruise the mycelium
I haven't heard of scraping. Just dunk them for 8-12 hours and you'll be fine.
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MisterKush
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: Yonatin]
#24798719 - 11/21/17 08:26 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay, well if anybody is interested in where I read about scraping. Here's the link
https://mycotopia.net/topic/90570-my-cakes-just-wont-start-pinning/
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AyePlus
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24799545 - 11/22/17 08:59 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
MisterKush said:
Okay, well if anybody is interested in where I read about scraping. Here's the link
https://mycotopia.net/topic/90570-my-cakes-just-wont-start-pinning/
One guy suggested it and noone backed him up, not a good source.
Sounds like a terrible idea to me.
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MisterKush
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: AyePlus]
#24799650 - 11/22/17 10:02 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright well I just dunked them and nothing else. I re added them to the FC this morning. Would be nice to see some growth come from this in a few weeks.
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24799652 - 11/22/17 10:03 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
MisterKush said:
Okay, well if anybody is interested in where I read about scraping. Here's the link
https://mycotopia.net/topic/90570-my-cakes-just-wont-start-pinning/
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Germs
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: AyePlus]
#24799656 - 11/22/17 10:03 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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That entire site is a trove of bad advice and misinformation
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MisterKush
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: Germs]
#24799665 - 11/22/17 10:11 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Will keep in mind. Thanks
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MisterKush
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24801064 - 11/22/17 09:50 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Question again, I understand that using fans to get FAE is a bad idea because of how quick the cakes dry out. In my case I have a miniature wireless fan that has 3 settings. I though of maybe placing it in a corner not blowing directly on the tote but just to get some FAE going. Bad idea? I'm just trying to think of anything I can do at this point I'm so nervous that I'm just going to get zip out of this. Everything looks and smells just fine. I'm hoping this dunk will do something. I used colder water when I dunked by the way. Not too cold but just colder if it matters.
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MisterKush
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24804536 - 11/24/17 08:46 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay so here is an update on the cakes, they smell shroomy still. As you can see I have gotten a new lamp for my light, and I took Mateah's advice about turning the lid to 90 degrees for better FAE I've been able to keep the humidity where it needs to be, is it possible the process has just been slowed dramatically? Or is there really no point at this point? I don't want to have a dud grow 
    
Edited by MisterKush (11/24/17 08:47 PM)
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24804593 - 11/24/17 09:12 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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They look over saturated to me, and I can see some slight yellowing in the first pic, indicating to me some bacteria. Bacteria is usually not an issue in cakes, but when given extra H2O bacteria can spread and thrive. ONLY mist when vermiculite is lightning in color indicating it is drying out.
How long since birthing the cakes? I am assuming no flushes at all yet, sorry only looked at the last page.
EDIT
How many inch deep is the perlite and is that SGCF sitting on the floor?
Since it looks to be in a basement, what is the temp of that area?
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MisterKush
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Yeah no flushes yet :/ I have dunked 2 of the cakes twice now, once before birthing and once again after 2 weeks. It's been about 18 days I think. I'ts so frustrating that I haven't gotten anything, but then again they had no lights for the first week and a half this past half week has been the only time they have received efficient light. These pics were taken right after misting.
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24804611 - 11/24/17 09:19 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I figured, but based on my experience with cakes and looking at clues on the mycelium, I still think they may be getting misted to heavily. Spray the mist in the air above them and let it fall onto the cakes. Spraying cakes directly can cause bad issues.
What are the temps and is the FC sitting straight on the ground?
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MisterKush
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Quote:
TheMadHatter420 said:
I figured, but based on my experience with cakes and looking at clues on the mycelium, I still think they may be getting misted to heavily. Spray the mist in the air above them and let it fall onto the cakes. Spraying cakes directly can cause bad issues.
What are the temps and is the FC sitting straight on the ground?
Temps are about 67-70 degrees F and NO the FC is on the old mason jars that I grew the cakes in haha. Are you saying/thinking they still can grow fruit at anytime?
Edited by MisterKush (11/24/17 09:27 PM)
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24804624 - 11/24/17 09:27 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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They could if they are not over saturated. If they are waterlogged they will need to dry out some 1st. Cakes for the win!
  
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MisterKush
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Well I try not to mist until the cakes literally feel a bit dry
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24804632 - 11/24/17 09:31 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok just don't mist to much at once. You want to just see fin mist droplets on there. Yours look like they got hosed down.
YOU CAN DO THIS!!
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MisterKush
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Ugh I really hope you're right here about this and I can at least get something out of these damn things I've waited like almost 2 months now
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MisterKush
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Re: I really need some advice [Re: MisterKush]
#24804644 - 11/24/17 09:33 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you think I should keep the lid at a 90 degree angle like I am? or should I close it up again?
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