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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: inbetween]
    #247563 - 12/06/99 04:25 AM (22 years, 9 months ago)

There ain't nothing wrong with pulling your own chain...if it were wrong, then we would have been created with shorter arms...


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Anonymous]
    #982843 - 10/22/02 09:49 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

if I didn't jack it, i wouldn't ever get laid...


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OfflineEarth_Droid
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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: subtlepoint]
    #982857 - 10/22/02 09:53 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Back in the days it was. Now in sex ed class, they practically say its normal.


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InvisibleCosmic_Monkey
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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: inbetween]
    #983095 - 10/22/02 10:44 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

I think the bad part about masterbating or having sex too much isn't that it's moraly wrong but that it keeps you from becoming enlightened. If your mind is always caught up in the constant desire for pleasure you will have a hard time freeing yourself from it. I guess it all depends on what your goal in life is. I'm always working on breaking myself from the constant sensual gratification trip, I think it's a major problem most of us have. If your thinking , man I just can't go without getting a nut, maybe you should take a look at how much self control you have. Who's in control you or the desire to get off?


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OfflineShroomalicious
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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: inbetween]
    #983892 - 10/23/02 01:45 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

"Don't knock masterbation, it's sex with someone I love" - Woody Allen

...but seriously folks...

All the explanations I have heard as to why it's wrong have involved a major judgement, like "It is a selfish act because it is something you do in an effort to ONLY gratify yourself."

Then is EVERYTHING you do for yourself bad? I eat for myself and ONLY for myself, is that an evil act?

Because it is addictive? What isn't? People get addicted to things all the time, food, television, church, drugs, etc. Addictive is a word that is subjective to the person, it is not just philosophy but it is science and psychology. Everybody's body reacts differently to EVERY drug. Psychologically, people need and want different things, so they react to everything differently. Some addictive chemicals have common effects on everyone, like nicotine. However, most have widely different effects on people. Some people have a SEVER food addiction...that does not mean that you or me are in danger of becoming addicted if we eat, necessarily.

How about this, and I mean it...anyone who can think of a reason why masterbation is wrong I bet I can knock it down (at least in my mind) without much effort and a clear reason as to why that is consistant with my beliefs right now.

Who knows, maybe you will prove me wrong and then I shall stop sining on a daily basis. :wink: 


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Crankenstein]
    #983902 - 10/23/02 01:48 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

It's not wrong in any way. But don't come crying to daddy when you go blind.

:grin:


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: inbetween]
    #984223 - 10/23/02 03:36 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

i think its more of what you are looking at and thinking about when you masturbate

theres some sick, disturbing shit that people look at to get off


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Lallafa]
    #984332 - 10/23/02 04:04 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

that is an awesome point! kinda makes you wonder how a horse could turn anyone on....



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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: chodamunky]
    #984607 - 10/23/02 05:07 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

my "friend" d/l ed a harddrive full of things of the sort


extremely perverse pornography? HAHAHA


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Shroomalicious]
    #984878 - 10/23/02 06:17 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

Then is EVERYTHING you do for yourself bad? I eat for myself and ONLY for myself, is that an evil act?





There's a difference between doing something good for yourself and getting your rocks off. I'm certainly not judging anyone by saying your bad if you do it, I just think it's detrimental to freeing your mind. "desire is a trap, desirelessness is liberation" - some Hindu fucker


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Shroomalicious]
    #985223 - 10/23/02 08:12 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

masterbating isn't wrong but porn is. the objectizing of people and sex is "wrong". when you look and think dirty thoughts about a certain type of person all the time, eventualy those thoughts come to your head in every-day tasks i.e. meeting a woman cashier and undressing her in you mind. you begin to percieve the world through the eyes of sex, and it becomes you main goal. some sexual thoughts are good and healthy, even the exploration of one's own sexual ability is good, but seeing all women as being "amatures" (you know what I mean) is not healthy.


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: ehud]
    #985238 - 10/23/02 08:18 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

So... is there a certain number of women I am allowed to mentally undress per day before it is morally wrong?

Oh, and I'm gonna need graphs and charts. :wink: 


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Anonymous

Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: inbetween]
    #985247 - 10/23/02 08:20 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Well if you give off a pheremone by not masturbating then you'd do the same by not having sex with someone else. I don't think your body differentiates between sex with your hand and a pussy, otherwise you wouldn't be able to blow a load in your hand.


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Anonymous

Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: inbetween]
    #985263 - 10/23/02 08:24 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

If masturbating causes you to not give off a certain pherome (whateverthefuck you said) then so would partner sex. Your body doesn't differentiate between masturbating and partner sex. That's why you are able to blow a load in your hand. Your brain thinks you're having sex so it causes an orgasm.


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Ishmael]
    #985262 - 10/23/02 08:24 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

If you didnt masterbate for a while, Im talkin weeks, you would eventually have a wet dream if you are a guy. So is this immoral? That shit has gotta come out sometime, so you might as well make the best of it. I dont see a damn thing about drugs or jerkin off in the ten commandments. LOL!!!!!! "Thou shall not floggith thy fallice. Thou shall not trippith thy balls off." :grin: 


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Ishmael]
    #985415 - 10/23/02 09:08 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

morals are made up anyways ... so as long as you do it where its not bothering someone else. lube it up and jerk away.

oh and my answer is no by the way.


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Sclorch]
    #985501 - 10/23/02 10:01 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

heres a graph i made haha


it is too late, I am going to bed


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OfflineShroomalicious
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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: ehud]
    #985601 - 10/23/02 11:09 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

masterbating isn't wrong but porn is. the objectizing of people and sex is "wrong". when you look and think dirty thoughts about a certain type of person all the time, eventualy those thoughts come to your head in every-day tasks i.e. meeting a woman cashier and undressing her in you mind. you begin to percieve the world through the eyes of sex, and it becomes you main goal. some sexual thoughts are good and healthy, even the exploration of one's own sexual ability is good, but seeing all women as being "amatures" (you know what I mean) is not healthy.

Well, I would say to you that "objectizing" is a subjective term. Some people conside the statue of David as art, others say it is a naked man, it is porn. Who can make that judgement?

Also, about seeing porn all the time making you obsessed with sex (I am paraphrasing but I think you know what I mean, I hope :smile:) well how do you know that happens to everyone? It may happen to you, or to some of your friends or even to all of your friends...that doesn't mean it happens to everyone.

I am not saying porn is right, I am not saying it is wrong...I am simply saying each and every person should be able to make up their minds for themselves as to whether or not it is right or wrong.

Cheers to you man! 


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: Freak]
    #986298 - 10/23/02 07:47 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Consensual sex is good, masturbation is good, porn is good...

It's all good, what's the problem? Why would any anal rententive fuck get his panties in a twist if someone else is yanking his own crank? If people voluntarily take their clothes off and make each other feel good and then sell photos of it, what's the problem? If some lonely homely looking fellow pleasures himself to the photos without hurting anyone, what's the problem?

Ain't nobody's business but your own.


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Re: Is masterbation morally wrong? [Re: ehud]
    #986475 - 10/23/02 08:55 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

ROTFLMAO!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Thank you... that was good... whew! 


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