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The next revolution
    #24738699 - 10/26/17 09:47 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I have a candidate in mind for political office.

My candidate is the perfect one to run for office. They have never been so much as incidentally involved with anyone or anything "shady". They have never said anything that could be viewed as an affront to anyone.

My candidate is immune from all the normal scandals, both past and present.

My candidate is an AI.

I was reading a good article by Kevin Drum, called "You Will Lose Your Job to a Robot—and Sooner Than You Think" where he says that by 2060 we will all be without a job, and after reading the article...I have to agree. The rise of AI has been a slow one, but it is gaining ground at remarkable paces. Just think about self driving cars (and trucks...) for a good example.

Human level "general" AI is not far off. I'm not saying it will be sentient...just that it will be able to do anything we humans can do. Do it better. Faster. Around the clock, without breaks. Who, in their right mind, would hire a human in this eventuality?

So what about the politics sphere? Can AI replace humans?

It looks like the answer is yes: http://dataconomy.com/2017/09/artificial-intelligence-political-systems/


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Re: The next revolution (moved) [Re: trendal]
    #24740802 - 10/27/17 08:51 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from Political Discussion.

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Re: The next revolution (moved) [Re: trendal]
    #24740861 - 10/27/17 09:42 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

An AI is a manifestation of the people who program it. That is where the bias and scandal can leak in. But eventually AI will be self sufficient and will be another force of nature we have to contend with. Politics is largely about conflict resolution and we will need human policies to deal with our interactions with the AI - unless it keeps us completely in the dark!

I'm definitely no luddite and I don't see doom and gloom in our future.


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Re: The next revolution (moved) [Re: DieCommie]
    #24741246 - 10/27/17 12:39 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Read "Homo Deus"; the use of AI in public administration is reflected on in one of the final chapters. What I took from it is that AI has no concept of ethics and particularly how ethics evolve. But that is one of the main issues driving politics (or perhaps even THE driving force).


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Re: The next revolution (moved) [Re: koraks]
    #24741359 - 10/27/17 01:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

A good point, that of question of ethics under an AI government.

But, I will ask, how are you so sure that AI can not grasp human ethics?


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Re: The next revolution (moved) [Re: trendal]
    #24741595 - 10/27/17 03:30 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Humans don't even have a standard set of ethics, who knows what AI's would be. But I wouldn't call them human ethics, even if they managed to overlap with some segment of humanity. AI's ethics would be a function of how it's created. Imbued within it as a seed, then evolved over time.

If our ethics have evolved to facilitate survival and procreation, which is reasonable - then so will AI's.


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