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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: Phred]
    #2463016 - 03/23/04 06:36 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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The best thing to do is disband the US military. While we're at it, disband the police as well.




I didnt actually see anyone say anything of the like. Thats a pretty weak tactic on your part.

So do you think the Spanish have put themselves at increased risk of terror attacks by voting in a government who are likely to withdraw troops from Iraq and take a more measured approach to terror? If so please enlighten me.


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2463041 - 03/23/04 06:56 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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I want my government to do what is necessary to have a good life for us. If that benefits others as well... good. If not... tough shit.




Is there a balance to do this i.e would it be acceptable to cause alot of problems for others to gain a small advantage for the US?


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2463328 - 03/23/04 10:48 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: Phred]
    #2464263 - 03/23/04 04:36 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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The best thing to do is disband the US military. While we're at it, disband the police as well.





OK, I get it, you're being sarcastic.

What do you think about my statement that the military is and always has been the world's most dangerous, heavily armed special interest group? Do you think its right that a pacifist such as myself should be forced to pay for the military through taxes and inflation?

I guess my opinion of the military has been heavily influenced by watching way too many old kung-fu movies. You know, the ones where the military is just a gang of thugs that take money by force from peaceful farmers and merchants so they can go conquer more villages? That's how it all started, folks.


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2464554 - 03/23/04 05:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

DoctorJ writes:

What do you think about my statement that the military is and always has been the world's most dangerous, heavily armed special interest group?

Whose military?

Militaries are certainly heavily armed. There's no disputing that. And members of the military probably tend to vote differently on some issues than civilian voters would.

But as a "special interest group", members of Western militaries consistently get the shit end of the stick. The pay sucks, living conditions suck, the job is dangerous and often fatal (even in peacetime), you and your family get schlepped all over the country or even the world every six months to two years or so, you give up rights civilians possess... I could go on but I think by now most readers of this post are grasping that being a member of a heavily armed special interest group doesn't mean much.

Do you think its right that a pacifist such as myself should be forced to pay for the military through taxes and inflation?

I don't think it's right that anyone should be forced to pay for the military or for that matter the police and courts through taxes or inflation. I believe the legitimate functions of government should be funded through voluntary methods. In my opinion, a society unwilling to pay of their own volition for such essential services is a society too stupid to survive long anyway.

I guess my opinion of the military has been heavily influenced by watching way too many old kung-fu movies.

I really couldn't say.

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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2465351 - 03/23/04 10:00 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
Do you think its right that a pacifist such as myself should be forced to pay for the military through taxes and inflation?




You enjoy the benefits of their protection, therefore you should. Remember that you only have the right to speak your mind the way you want because of the people that have been violent or been willing to be in your and your fellow American's behalf to protect your freedoms.

Everyone love pacifists, especially tyrants.


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2465364 - 03/23/04 10:03 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe he's not as afraid as you are.

Tyrants also love blind followers, especially violent ones.


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2465397 - 03/23/04 10:08 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
Tyrants also love blind followers, especially violent ones.




So right you are

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Baby_Hitler said:
Maybe he's not as afraid as you are.




Exactly what am I afraid of? I don't get it.


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2465422 - 03/23/04 10:17 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

You enjoy the benefits of their protection, therefore you should.

Why would this be important unless you were afraid? Also would we need so much protection if it were not for alot of the things our military do/have done?

Canada doesn't seem to need much military protection. It doesn't have any enemies.

Also just because the military has in the past defended freedom doesn't mean that they do today. Today's military is even used to oppress the American people.


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2465455 - 03/23/04 10:24 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I have no faith in the inherent goodness of man. I believe that people will try to test you if they perceive weakness. Our world is not yet entirely enlightened for us all to be in love with each other. I would say that I'm concerned about possible threats. Not everyone has a live and let live attitude.


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2466078 - 03/24/04 01:40 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Where did you come up with the shit about all the soldiers being just like bullies? They are told to do something and they do it. If a bully wants to kick ur face in and take your lunch money he does it because he wants to, he enjoys kicking your face. A lot of these soldiers have to go to therapy because not all of them enjoy blowing brains out a daily basis. I'll probably have to join too cause there is noooo fuckin way I will be able to pay for my college costs. Now for all peaceful people, do you want to be muslim? Cause I wouldnt mind, and I wouldnt mind having 10 wives who i can slap around.

Ask any1 of the "terrorists" and they will tell that they WANT Islam everywhere, they want it to be in every fuckin house. Now a lot of you people don't want this, you want equality, well u wont get it. Personally I dont give a fuck about being a Muslim, shit, if I marry a muslim chick, id convert too...

Anyway, military is a neccessity for the protection of a country. Even though Japan has a small military they still have the USA behind them.

The military protects your cheap gas, cheap food, cheap dildos for your bitch, cheap everything, they kill people for that shit, so that you and your children can be nice and happy. It is the reality of the world, go back to wonderland where every1 is peacefull and equal and has a full belly.


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    #2468635 - 03/24/04 07:42 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: ]
    #2468809 - 03/24/04 08:28 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

your moronic threats of violence are excellent evidence supporting my theory that the military is primarily composed of homicidally psychotic idiots. thank you for winning my arguement for me.

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fuck hippies. you dont know me.


BTW, if you killed me, you wouldn't live very long afterwards. My father used to work for military intelligence. Seriously, you have no idea who you are dealing with.

Why dont you just do the gene pool a favor and kill yourself? Soon we will have evolved enough not to need cretins like you.


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2472292 - 03/25/04 07:55 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:
Why dont you just do the gene pool a favor and kill yourself? Soon we will have evolved enough not to need cretins like you.




I don't even know what the other guy said so I'm not trying to defend them or anything, but do you honestly think that evolution is going to let a desireable trait die off. And if it does then do think that it will happen simultaneously with all life in the universe.(yes I believe that there is life out there)


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Re: Military Propaganda [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2472689 - 03/25/04 11:40 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

People have fought for thousands and thousands of years. Every species fights for survival. You tree hugging mother fuckers still go nuts when you get pissed off, you still have the instinct to kill, so shut the fuck up. Go to the lab and make humans peacefull, oh, my bad, you're against that shit too. Bitches.


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