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are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)???
    #24712637 - 10/15/17 08:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Puffballs??? possibly - Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)???

Oregon - forest type environment

- they are coming up all over in the grass and out the gravel driveway!
- kind of a stem
- no gills - how do i print these??
- puff on top which is slightly toothy? wart like??
- they smell heavily like mushrooms (pleasant) and a bit nutty/ with almost a hint of spice?
- I cut one open too so you can see inside

they came up last year and were about 4 times the size (got to look for those pics)

**I think they may be edible which is why I really want to get a correct identification**

 
 
                   
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Re: are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)??? [Re: Mushrello]
    #24712708 - 10/15/17 09:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

They're a Bovista sp. but I don't know enough about the species you have in your location to confirm your suspicion.


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Re: are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)??? [Re: karode13]
    #24712766 - 10/15/17 09:41 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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They're a Bovista sp. but I don't know enough about the species you have in your location to confirm your suspicion.




Maybe try Lycoperdon perlatum ..


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Re: are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)??? [Re: RiparianRanger]
    #24712787 - 10/15/17 09:53 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

That's the old name. Bovista is the new one.

Same thing, different name. :shrug:


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Re: are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)??? [Re: karode13]
    #24712850 - 10/15/17 10:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the responses:thumbup:

I'm leaning towards Bovista sp also. 
The mushrooms I found don't look to be as spiney as a Lycoperdon perlatum
these have more a granular top

But then if they are changing names or ?? Then I have no lean towards


I'm understanding too that both mentioned are edible?
--so i can go ahead and consume?

anyone have experience with these?

I did pick some of the smaller ones that felt firm and when cut no bugs or any signs of being old

- also would like to know if I dried them would they still be nutritious?

Thanks again for all your help
   


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Re: are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)??? [Re: karode13]
    #24712897 - 10/15/17 10:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You will note in the description of Lycoperdon perlatum on Mushroom Expert,
that the "studs" tend to fall off as they mature and are more visible and prominent on younger specimens, which has also been my experience. You will have to decide if these are truly what you hold based on that evidence.
I know of only the one real look-a-like, which grows on wood, making it easy to separate.
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That's the old name. Bovista is the new one.

Same thing, different name. :shrug:




Interesting.. I'd love to see a reference citing this. I don't seem to find Bovista perlatum on either ME of MO, yet there are listings of Bovista spp. Nor do I find any reference to it in the search engine..outside of "images". It has been my understanding that it has not been deprecated.

I was under the impression Bovista was the genus of "tumbling puffballs" and Lycoperdon was the genus of "common puffballs".

I am aware of the debate about the placement of Lycoperdon pyriformis into Morganella, but I had heard no such debate concerning Lycoperdon perlatum.


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Re: are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)??? [Re: RiparianRanger]
    #24713205 - 10/16/17 01:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Actually....Scrap everything I've typed. I think the puffball file stored in my brain is seriously messed up and I seem to have things confused. I've also spent a few days immeresed in plant taxonomy and horticulture which hasn't helped.

Was a few years ago that I read about the splits and depreciations and for some reason it's not been remembered as it should be. I need to re read things again.

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Re: are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)??? [Re: karode13]
    #24716096 - 10/17/17 10:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Its a Lycoperdon Species. I am fairly certain of that. As to the exact species, I am unsure. However, the point at top ..and the gems on the outside of the body makes me think Lycoperdon, Vs. Bovista or Scleroderma.

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Re: are these Tumbling Puffball (Bovista Plumbea)??? [Re: Mushrello]
    #24716201 - 10/17/17 11:33 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Stick with Lycoperdon perlatum.

They're edible if still completely white inside.

I've never heard of anybody drying them to preserve them. I would recommend cooking then freezing. Drying would tend to allow them to mature and convert the solid white inside to brown mature spores and capillitium, which wouldn't be appetizing at all.


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