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 Anglerfish
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 Re: active psilocybe  [Re: ozzy43] 1
#25608555 - 11/12/18 06:19 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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ozzy43 said:
There is a very thin gelatinous strip on the edge of the gills , i picked it off with a pin.
Okay, this is more than suggestive of P. liniformans var. liniformans.
It is, as far as I know, the only Psilocybe species with such a feature.
While you have it, I would strongly recommend you to send it for DNA sequencing.
It's a very rare species, perhaps this has something to do with the slow and stunted
mycelial growth? That it has a hard time fruiting even in natural conditions?
It would also be excellent if you could manage to take a picture of the gill edge while you remove it.
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 ozzy43
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Sorry about the quality of the photo.
I sent some to doc9151 3 weeks ago, although im not sure if he received them.
Edited by ozzy43 (12/03/18 07:34 AM)
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: ozzy43]
#25608897 - 11/12/18 09:09 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some pictures of Psilocybe liniformans from The Netherlands.
It seems to prefer coastal regions. I bet Ozzy lives near the coast. 
https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/0119090
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Alan Rockefeller
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Sporulator said:
Ozzy sent me a print a while ago.
The spores germinate easily on a number of agar media. The mycelium grows (ridiculously slow) a few millimeters and then it stops and it's over.
I don't think that is Psilocybe mycelium.
Just because you don't see other spores when you scope a print doesn't mean it's clean, does not take much to contaminate a print. The thing to do would be to scrape up a colony and sequence it. Even scoping the mycelium would tell you a lot, it's likely got structures more interesting than the simple hyphae of a basidiomycete. I would scope the brown part as that is most likely to have unusual structures.
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Sporulator
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I did scope at least five samples from the spore print and I could never detect different types of spores.
I always get the same kind of mycelium when I germinate the spores.
Meanwhile I have started a new culture on oat flake agar which seems to work better and the strange thing is that the mycelium completely changes its
appearance and texture when transferred from agar to rye berries.
Anyway, I will transfer some spawn to horse dung, I think that will tell me a lot.
Edited by Sporulator (11/12/18 01:40 PM)
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Doc9151
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Take some pictures of the brown section through your eye piece and post them in this thread. I want to see what the others structures look like, maybe a picture of the white section as well for comparison.
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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: Doc9151]
#25611172 - 11/13/18 04:56 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said:
Take some pictures of the brown section through your eye piece and post them in this thread. I want to see what the others structures look like, maybe a picture of the white section as well for comparison.
That agar culture doesn't exist anymore, but I will germinate spores again.
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ozzy43
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Edited by ozzy43 (12/03/18 07:41 AM)
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ozzy43
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: ozzy43] 1
#25648104 - 11/30/18 09:02 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by ozzy43 (12/03/18 07:44 AM)
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doctorghosty
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: ozzy43]
#25648105 - 11/30/18 09:04 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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deconica coprophila I think
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Awake_and_Away
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: ozzy43]
#25648106 - 11/30/18 09:04 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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ozzy43 said:
Psilocybe fimetaria?
   
How blue are they really at the base? The left image looks blueish, but that could also be the lighting.
More likely is Deconica coprophila.
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ozzy43
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The first 7 pics are Psilocybe liniformans.
You might be right about the other 4 though.
It did look blue in the flesh, but it faded a bit by the time i got back.??
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Doc9151
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: ozzy43]
#25648202 - 11/30/18 10:09 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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The 1st picture with the bluish base looks like a shadow more so than blue bruising. Is that correct?
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593
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ozzy43
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: Doc9151]
#25648223 - 11/30/18 10:26 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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As far as i could tell at the time, it was bruising blue, but i can see what you mean by shadow.
It wasn't as noticeable 3 hours later and there is no other obvious bruising on any of the others.
I left pins, and will check again Sunday.
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: ozzy43]
#25648509 - 11/30/18 12:29 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
ozzy43 said:
The first 7 pics are Psilocybe liniformans.
You might be right about the other 4 though.
It did look blue in the flesh, but it faded a bit by the time i got back.??
How are you identifying those first 7 as P. liniformans as opposed to D. coprophila?
I've found ones that look similar and I have always assumed they were Deconica.
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ozzy43
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One way to tell them apart is the gelatinous edge of the gills.
Another way is the blue bruising primordia/stems.
Edited by ozzy43 (12/03/18 07:33 AM)
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Awake_and_Away
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: ozzy43]
#25648704 - 11/30/18 02:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool. Are gelatinous gill edges unique to P. fimetaria?
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ozzy43
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They're unique to Psilocybe liniformans, as far as i know.
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Re: active psilocybe [Re: ozzy43]
#25648762 - 11/30/18 02:39 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks! As soon as I asked that I scrolled up and read Anglerfish's comment too haha.
Definitely will keep an eye out for these features next time I think I have Deconica.
Edited by Awake_and_Away (11/30/18 02:40 PM)
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ozzy43
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Edited by ozzy43 (12/03/18 07:25 AM)
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